Dear List and Carl,
To Carl:
In reply to your statement.
"I noticed that MT no longer displays a link to Tom's web site. What is up with that
MT?"
Let me help you find the link we have to Tom's Gallery on
Meteorite-Times. On the right side of the page is a column with groups
of links. One of these groups is called "Meteorite Resources". If you
look down the list you will see "Meteorite Pictures / Collections /
Museums". If you click on this link you will see the listing to Tom's
Gallery.
http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite-pictures/
To Everyone:
It's truly sad that Tom Phillips is no longer on the m-list, nor will he
be sharing his amazing images with us anymore. All Tom wanted to do was
share cool beautiful views of meteorites in a way that we would have
never seen without him...
Below is an email I wrote to Tom. I've removed the name and subject but
the involved parties will know.
Hi Tom,
I've been mulling this around this morning because I don't want
meteorite.com or your gallery to be caught up in any controversy...
The fact that I've been thinking about this and you're writing me
again
confirms that we are both on track knowing that these statements will
indeed bring us into the conflict.
My decision is to just present your wonderful images without the
controversy. I'm much to busy to be involved in WWIII.
If ******* wants statements about ^^^^^^^ included then maybe
******* can post them.
Please let me know your thoughts...
Paul
Tom was both used and condemned by members of this list who acted a
judge, jury and executioner. And what was Tom guilty of? Tom was
guilty of being non-political and having the insane notion that we would
be interested in seeing images of meteorites with questions.
On this Thanksgiving maybe we should all reflect back on all the joy and
wonder Tom's images brought us. Thank you Tom for the thousands of
hours you spent at eyepiece to bring us those incredible sights.
Maybe next time we can walk a few steps in other person's shoes before
we impale them with our deadly keystrokes...
Paul
On 11/24/2010 9:03 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Dave,
To answer your question without using a back door approach to sell my thin
section. Yes, thin sections are a very important part of the classification
process. They give the viewer the ability to optically determine what the
mineralogy is within the rock. That said, if you have a good Scanning Electron
microscope this can be done with or without a thin section in some cases. The
microprobe is an additional tool that tells the Scientist what he or she is
looking at as well but in a much more modern and accurate way. Keep in mind
Thin sections at one time were all we had until the advent of the SEM Scanning
Electron Microprobe.
It should be clear what Tom Phillips offers is not and never was intended for
classification purposes. He is an artistic genius of sorts and offers us a
wonderful perspective of a different World if you will. Please read Tom's
statement in his own words below;
" I have often said that you would not use my images for classification. As I am
examining known material, I don't think that matters. I show things others do not. In
ways most have not even tried. It does not get any easier to increase magnification and
still maintain the lighting control and clarity. Then there are the high magnification
reflected light shots like what was posted on NWA 5363, who else shows what the material
really looks like at that magnification. I have no problem with acknowledging the lack of
traditional classification usefulness but what does bother me is the dismissing of very
interesting and unexplained structures my images reveal as useless just because the
viewer is unfamiliar with what they are looking at."
I would like to add that sometimes Scientists do find subjects within
meteorites that require such high magnifications (look at ALH84001) but if you
want to see a great variety and extremely interesting images . Well, Tom
Phillips is simply the best at what he does. Period.
Tom has been insulted and attacked now enough times that he is likely to be
calling it quits. I'm not sure he even reads this list anymore? I noticed that
MT no longer displays a link to Tom's web site. What is up with that MT? This
is indeed a sad day for our wonderful Meteorite community and this great
met-list.
I hope that this community embraces Tom and encourages him to continue in spite
of some recent unwarranted attacks of him for NO good reason.
Carl
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- Dave Myers<[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Tom and list!
Sorry for all the miss-spelled words!
like "Top Phillips".........ment Tom,
I find myself lately trying to type faster then my pay-grade! ......LOL
you all take care!
dave
----- Original Message ----
From: Dave Myers<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 4:21:14 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question, Thinn sections
Hi List,
I list I have a question about thinn section photos, Like the great photos Top
Phillips takes.
Those who study meteorite or classify them, Can they tell just by looking at
the photos, if
the thenn section is from a meteorite?? Can they tell if it is a Lunar or
Martian meteorite from the thinn section photo?? Or do they need the thinn
section in hand to put through a type of spectrometor??
And is that even enough to tell, or does all the other testing have to be done
to tell if it is a meteorite, is a Lunar or martian.
Thanks for any info.
dave
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