Before an injury it realy helps to be in good physical shape. It also helps to 
see a good kiropractor before injury. A couple hundred bucks a year to a 
kiropractor can keep your back in line and prevent the lifting injuries from 
happening in the first place. You dont have to go to a gym and do extensive 
workouts either to prevent injury. Basic streatching exercizes like touching 
your toes in the tub while taking a bath . And gymnastic streaching help. Have 
carple tunnel? Befor trying surgury try swinging a mop around a floor or 
finding if you have a pinched nerve in your back. Im 52 years old can still run 
a marathon and and set a dislocated shoulder by myself ot in the wilds. Being 
flexible by stretching is not physically hard to do but much more important 
than heavy workouts or lifting exercizes. Have a great day and work on touching 
your toes no matter how fat you are! Cheers Steve

On Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 6:53 PM EST Darryl Pitt wrote:

>
>
>L4-5 /L5-S1.  discectomies---one the result of a several hundred pound gibeon 
>slipping off a pedestal at phillips auction house in the late 90s.  it didn't 
>hit the floor---but i later did, after a large disc fragment popped and 
>migrated into my spinal canal. 
>
>some tips for a non emergency situation...
>
>AFTER AN EVENT
>
>--cold first 24h following an event and then heat.  
>--lower back?  lie down.  pillows under your calves to press the lower back 
>down
>--any part of your back or neck?  invest in a hydrocollator -- you will thank 
>me -- and they're cheap. 
>
>http://www.isokineticsinc.com/category/hydrocollator
>
>http://www.scriphessco.com/itemdetail.asp?cat=&MENU=&item=231+0035
>
>http://www.chirocity.com/hydrocollatorpacks.aspx
>
>you'll see heating units being offered for sale  (you absolutely don't need 
>one) as well as terry cloth covers (a few washcloths or folded towel will do 
>the trick).  the hydrocollator itself can either be in immersed in boiling 
>water on the stove or immersed in water and then microwaved.  i prefer the 
>former.  BE CAREFUL!   the moist heat is surprisingly penetrating and you can 
>burn yourself easily.  start with 3 layers of towels and then and or subtract 
>as needed.
>
>
>LATER (for lower back)
>--lose weight
>--strengthen your core
>--stretch. stretch. stretch.  
>
>IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT SURGERY IS REQUIRED
>
>my fam is crawling with physicians, and the last thing you want is surgery.  
>if possible, exhaust all other options prior to a date with a surgeon. 
>
>--remember, surgeons are trained (and like to) cut.  obtain several opinions;
>--all disc issues are not the same--let alone seemingly similar lower back 
>issues---and treatments vary. 
>--both neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons can do most jobs;
>--check your physician's training, specialization and ongoing education.  so 
>very important.  easy to do online.  things are so specialized these days..if 
>you have a lower back issue, it's usually best to go with someone whose 
>practice focuses on the same. 
>--have a lexis search done on the physician for lawsuits
>--do not evaluate the surgeon based on whether you like him or her---this is 
>not match.com.  do the aforementioned research and limit your decision to the 
>resume. 
>
>
>be well and all best / d 
>
>
>On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> that's what I've been doing with my pain in  
>>> the back the last few years (herniated disk). :-/
>> 
>>> I partially separated my C3 and C4 vertebrae several years ago
>> 
>> Welcome to the HD* club! ;-)
>> 
>> *herniated disk
>> 
>> L3-L4 here in Germany,
>> 
>> Bernd
>> 
>> P.S.:
>> 
>>> Try falling out of trees and see what that does to your neck and back.
>> 
>> I did try when I was thirteen... neck and back were ok but my left
>> elbow burst into bits and pieces. Have a crooked arm ever since :-(
>> 
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