Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

Ed Deckert Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:03:01 -0800

I was under the impression that an ebay seller can cancel a bid while theauction

is still active, and then block the buyer whose bid he canceled.  (If the
seller knows enough to look for him, that is.)


Anyone know anything about doing that?

Ed Deckert
IMCA #8911

----- Original Message -----From: "Stuart McDaniel" <[email protected]>To: "Richard Montgomery" <[email protected]>; "Gary Fujihara"<[email protected]>; "MeteorList" <[email protected]>

Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

I have an idea that may help...............................what about ifyou see this 1**a has bid on something, use the function to ask the sellera question that get's added to the description of the ad warning them ofthis guy? There ia a way that it will show up in the description and maybethe seller can end the auction early.

-----Original Message-----From: Richard Montgomery

Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:07 PM
To: Gary Fujihara ; MeteorList
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

Thanks to the List...I've just blocked this a-hole (thanks Don M for the
link) ...also went and looked at Lucyfi's Seymchan thin-slice (awesome, I
might add) and sure enough 1***a won it.  I tried writing her through
MyEbay-ask-seller link to give her a heads-up, but couldn't.

Isn't this a crime? Or are all the warnings posted to bidders re: "youareentering into a binding contract" just a bunch of hooooey? One wouldthink

eBay's downside about fraud-buyers would have some sort of legal team to
support their very existence.

----- Original Message -----From: "Gary Fujihara" <[email protected]>

To: "MeteorList" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

Aloha,

Buyers need to beware of tri-ball34 too, as he is continuing to bid upitems on ebay even as i write this. He has won 2 more items and hiscarnage amounts to 180 items won in the last 30 days.

You can identify this person as a bidder on an item by clicking on theBid History link on a listing, which will bring up a list of bids, withthe bidder ID scrambled with asterisks. Don Skidmore informs me thattri-ball34 is member ID l***a

Buyers, if you see l***a in the bid history of an item, you'd be advisednot to bid on the item lest you get into a bid war with him that youprobably will not win. And even if you do, it would be so highlyinflated as to be ridiculously expensive. Caveat emptor.


gary

On Dec 19, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Sansoucie wrote:


Hello all,

The Sellers of the items will be able to report him through theresolution center. I have had to do this over a different seller. eBaywill revoke his account once the proper channels are followed.

It is sad. To me, it would seem this is someone with a desire to attackonly IMCA members. Does anyone know if a non-member has had this issue?


Warren Sansoucie
IMCA 3174
St. Louis MO

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:11:32 -0800
From: [email protected]

To: [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]

CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMCA] [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

Yes, he tripled the price the Sylacauga would have sold for...

Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $150.00


Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $120.00


Member Id: u***h ( 793 ) US $50.00


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


--- On Sun, 12/19/10, Mirko Graul <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Mirko Graul <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

To: "MeteorList" <[email protected]>, "GaryFujihara" <[email protected]>

Cc: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 6:08 PM
And now he have won also a slice by
cometshop:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=360327984789&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=

and a piece of Sylacauga:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260707431225&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=


It is interesting to see ....

Best Regards Mirko


Mirko Graul Meteorite
Quittenring.4
16321 Bernau
GERMANY

Phone: 0049-1724105015
E-Mail: [email protected]

WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de

Member of The Meteoritical Society
(International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery
Science)

IMCA-Member: 2113
(International Meteorite Collectors Association)


--- Mirko Graul <[email protected]>
schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:

Von: Mirko Graul <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [IMCA] [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning

tri-ball34

An: "MeteorList" <[email protected]>,

"Gary Fujihara" <[email protected]>

CC: [email protected]
Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:55 Uhr
Hi Gary,

wow.....a new piece on the list.
Our all friend have won just in this moment a

expensive

Seymchan slice.
...bad for the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260705850283&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=


Best regards Mirko

Mirko Graul Meteorite
Quittenring.4
16321 Bernau
GERMANY

Phone: 0049-1724105015
E-Mail: [email protected]

WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de

Member of The Meteoritical Society
(International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery
Science)

IMCA-Member: 2113
(International Meteorite Collectors Association)


--- Gary Fujihara <[email protected]>
schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:

Von: Gary Fujihara <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning

tri-ball34

An: "MeteorList" <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]
Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:46 Uhr
To see the kind of damage this guy
has done, follow this link to see all of the

auctions

tri-ball34 has won over the past 30 days:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=tri-ball34&completed=1&all=1&rows=50&sort=1&_rdc=1

Those sellers on the list have to report him to

ebay,

and

together we may get his account revoked and your

listing

fees refunded.

gary

On Dec 19, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Mirko Graul wrote:

Hi Mike,

yes, I know.
But the shipping from Germany to the United

States is

very expensive.

And so do some of the buyers a few days to

collect

pieces.

That is absolutely ok.
Fortunately, I've blocked him early.
My auctions end almost every day.
One would not imagine that this person wins

all

the

auctions of a full week.

... then good night Marie...

Best regards, Mirko



Mirko Graul Meteorite
Quittenring.4
16321 Bernau
GERMANY

Phone: 0049-1724105015
E-Mail: [email protected]

WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de

Member of The Meteoritical Society
(International Society for Meteoritics and

Planetery

Science)


IMCA-Member: 2113
(International Meteorite Collectors

Association)



--- Michael Gilmer <[email protected]>

schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:

Von: Michael Gilmer <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning,

Warning

tri-ball34

An: "Mirko Graul" <[email protected]>
CC: "michael cottingham" <[email protected]>,

[email protected],
[email protected],
"Stuart McDaniel" <[email protected]>

Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:09

Uhr

Besides blocking this clown, one can
protect Buy It Now listings by
requiring immediate payment. At least

this

way,

someone can't "win"
the item, end the listing, and then not

pay.

With an

auction though,
the only recourse is to block the

bidder.


I had a few problems with bidders like

that

when I

was

still selling
on eBay. It's especially frustrating

because

you end

up being charged
for the listing fee and the final value

fee,

but

no

payment. You
can't get the fees back until you invest

more

time

(i.e.

money) to
file reports and complaints. It's a

major

PITA and

part of the reason
I quit selling there.

But I must say, the problems I had were

relatively

minor

and few
compared to this "tri-ball" clown.

I'm

glad

he never

hit me like
that. In most cases, I'd finally get

paid,

after

weeks of emails and
finally filing a complaint. Once the

unpaid

item case

is filed, most
AWOL buyers who still care about their

eBay

accounts will

usually pay.
If you still don't hear from them after

filing

the

complaint, then
block them with prejudice.

Another thing that is good is posting

the

offender's eBay

handle here
so the other eBay sellers can be

forewarned.

It is

obvious that this
person is a chronic offender who is not

going

to

stop their

behavior.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 12/19/10, Mirko Graul <[email protected]>
wrote:

Sellers can not give negative

feedbacks.

... unfortunately ... I would

have done in this

case


Best regards, Mirko



Mirko Graul Meteorite
Quittenring.4
16321 Bernau
GERMANY

Phone: 0049-1724105015
E-Mail: [email protected]
WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de

Member of The Meteoritical Society
(International Society for

Meteoritics

and

Planetery

Science)


IMCA-Member: 2113
(International Meteorite Collectors

Association)



--- Stuart McDaniel <[email protected]>

schrieb am So,

19.12.2010:

Von: Stuart McDaniel <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list]

Warning,

Warning

tri-ball34

An: "michael cottingham" <[email protected]>,

[email protected],

[email protected],

[email protected]

Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember,

22:50

Uhr

Negative feedback also!!

-----Original Message-----
From: michael cottingham
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010

4:46

PM

To: [email protected]
; [email protected]
;
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]

Warning,

Warning

tri-ball34



Hello,
He is a scum bag. Block him,

report

him

and do

whatever you

can... he cost
me $500.00. The auctions can be

relisted...it is

the TIME

these people steal
that can not be recovered.
Best Wishes
Michael Cottingham

----------------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010

21:41:46

+0000

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected];

[email protected]

Subject: Re:

[meteorite-list]

Warning,

Warning

tri-ball34


Hi Adam,

yes for the full-time seller

it

is a

big

problem.

It costs time and money.
.... but I see I am not

alone in

this

problem.


Best regards, Mirko



Mirko Graul Meteorite
Quittenring.4
16321 Bernau
GERMANY

Phone: 0049-1724105015
E-Mail: [email protected]
WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de

Member of The Meteoritical

Society

(International Society for

Meteoritics

and

Planetery

Science)


IMCA-Member: 2113
(International Meteorite

Collectors

Association)



--- Adam Hupe schrieb am

So,

19.12.2010:

Von: Adam Hupe
Betreff:

[meteorite-list]

Warning,

Warning

tri-ball34

An: "Adam"
Datum: Sonntag, 19.

Dezember,

22:30

Uhr

Yes, This guy (

tri-ball34

"won" quantity 23 items

from

me

valued

into the

thousands and will not

pay

for

them.

This is one

of the

reasons eBay can be so
frustrating and I am

trying

to

ween

myself off of

it. This

kind of person not
only hurts sellers, he

hurts

the

buyers

by

bidding up items

he has no intention
of paying for. He bid

up

so

many

of my

items that I

thought the meteorite
market was recovering

nicely.

Now,

that

I have

spent many

hours opening 23
separate cases against

him

and

undoing

the

damage, I see

that the market is
about the same. It is

amazing what

kind of

chaos a

single bidder can

cause.


Best Regards,

Adam

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