I like that idea if there is some where to verify the signature.
But in today's electronic world, verification is only an email away!
Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr.,
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
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From: m...@mhmeteorites.com
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:34 PM
To: Michael Gilmer ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Mike
Bandli
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; Rob Lenssen
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
You bring up good points.
Recently I have been signing my cards, as some others did (Hupe, Haag). Very
difficult to copy my signature. This may stop one from being unscrupulous.
Matt
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Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215
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From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritem...@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:33
To: Mike Bandli<fuzzf...@comcast.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; Rob Lenssen<rlens...@planet.nl>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Gang,
This is just my opinion, so others' mileage may vary.
I do not include specimen cards with the pieces I sell for one primary
reason, explained below.
1) I include a small identification label for each specimen that shows
the name of the specimen, type, location/date of the find/fall and my
URL.
2) I do not include the original specimen card (from the dealer I
acquired it from) unless it is specifically requested. If the buyer
requests it, I will provide a copy of the original card.
Personally, I do not find specimen cards to be a convincing method of
proving provenance because anyone with a printer can make a copy of
any specimen card they want. With a scanner, a person could copy any
specimen card in the world and insert whatever information they want
using Photoshop. To me, such cards are nice to have, but they prove
nothing. The same can be said for "certificates of authenticity"
which are not worth the paper they are printed on.
In my view, you either trust your dealer or you do not. A card or
certificate might make one feel better about provenance, but it
ultimately means or proves nothing.
Having said that, I enjoy specimen cards and I collect them. I have a
large box full of cards from dozens of different dealers and
collections. But I do not count them as "proof" that a given specimen
is genuine. I trust my sources for that authenticity, not the small
printed cards they give me.
Best regards and happy collecting!
MikeG
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On 3/4/11, Mike Bandli <fuzzf...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Rob,
Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the
original
dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight.
Cheers,
Mike Bandli
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Lenssen
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:45 PM
To: 'Rob Wesel'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Guy's,
Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's - they are not answering
the
question "how to deal with changing mass".
I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the
piece.
I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified
myself.
Best,
Rob
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Van: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net]
Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:38
Aan: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
Mike Bandli; 'Rob Lenssen'
Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
In response to Stuart
Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz....
Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards
Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
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From: <actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM
To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; "Mike Bandli"
<fuzzf...@comcast.net>; "'Rob Lenssen'" <rlens...@planet.nl>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have
been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less
not being an IMCA member or the original finder.
Maybe make an "entry" on the back of the original card as to whom you
received it from and forward it when you sell it.
Stuart McD
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