I can't say that mixing up all their pictures/samples really instills
me with confidence in a bill of sale from Bonhams!

Graham

On 14 April 2011 04:47, Shawn Alan <photoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yinan
>
> I would have to agree the bill of sale from a world renowned auction house 
> says it all.
>
> Shawn Alan
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> Bonhams and provenance
> Yinan Wang veomega at gmail.com
> Wed Apr 13 23:37:14 EDT 2011
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> Hi List,
>
> Thought I'd chime in on this subject since I'm in the auction industry.
>
> Privacy (and anonymity) is one of the principles of the auction
> industry. The consignor or direct previous owner is kept private
> unless they wish to be recognized, at which point it is up to a
> department's director whether or not to include them in the
> description of an item. Well recognized provenance, such as from The
> British Museum, or Nininger, would normally be shown in the
> description while the direct previous owner or consignor will not be
> unless it is agreed upon.
>
> Of course a potential buyer can certainly ask to be put in contact
> with the previous owner, but it's up to the consignor whether or not
> they want to respond.
>
> Also, a bill of sale from an auction house is usually really good for
> authenticity and provenance since auction houses are supposed to
> guarentee the titles of items.
>
> -Yinan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> That is a heckuva good question, John.
>
>>
>
>> I've contacted Bonhams about provenance on lots I've won and was told by the 
>> head guy that they do not release information about the consignor, but they 
>> would send an email on my behalf. So far, no consignor has responded.
>
>>
>
>> Sometimes Bonhams will state the name of the collection from which an item 
>> came and I've tried direct contact based on that info, to no avail.
>
>>
>
>> I am currently negotating the sale of a piece and the potential buyer is 
>> insistant on documentation, which I have been unable to get. Very 
>> frustrating, especially from an auction house. One would think they would 
>> live or die on provenance, especially for items that cost a bunch.
>
>>
>
>> Paul Swartz
>
>>
>
>>> I have a question about the exceedingly rare meteorites in question.
>
>>> Why does Bonhams devalue these meteorites by stripping them of their 
>>> provenance
>
>>> and chain of ownership history? Why are they being sold without the 
>>> supporting
>
>>> information of where they originated from? It does not seem to be in the 
>>> best
>
>>> interest of the buyer....
>
>>>
>
>>> Best Regards,
>
>>> John Higgins
>
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