Once again, now you all know why we did not open the Whetstone Mountains fall 
to everyone. The landowners did not want many people out there, no cameras and 
TV shows,  no quads, no problems of any kind, and that is what we promised and 
delivered on. 

We had no bull%$%$, no thefts, no scams, nothing more than Carl Esparza causing 
the trouble you all recall, posting photos of my car license plate and my home 
from google earth and saying he would follow us to the site. Many of you 
continue to buy from these scammers, after you see what they do, there are more 
than one on this list. They do this crap then some people won't hesitate to 
pull out their wallets and buy from them. Get in the dirt to buy from these 
scammers and you will come out smelling. 
Carl also claims to have found numerous new meteorites including eucrites on 
his ranch in Aravaica. I am pretty sure they all smell like NWA's from 
Mohammed's box. I have been hunting in Arizona for 15 years and have yet to 
find a new meteorite, though it can happen as Jack and others know, it is 
unlikely for anyone to have a "meteorite ranch" this no new pieces from him 
were being accepted for classification. 

Do we see a pattern here?


I have been buying and selling meteorites since 1996 and plan to be selling 
after 2026. I will not pull this crap because I make enough money being honest, 
scamming burns you, we see that in this thread. My collection is worth a lot of 
money, not to mention the time I put into building it, and I will not have it 
tarnished. If I had a suspect item, it would either go in the trash or at least 
be labeled as suspect and set aside.

I just had a bar-b-que with landowners where we are working, we have put 
hundreds of thousands of $$ in their pockets, and they love us for it. Unlike 
some other hunters who have left their landowners penniless and with no 
meteorites or recourse, we have made ours wealthy. We are friends and i have 
full use of their extensive shop for my hunting needs, mainenance etc. Today i 
slid off the road into a swamp, hopelessly stranding us, we had to walk some 
distance in the rain and mud, and call for help, a huge tractor was driven 
miles to rescue us on a moments notice. This is how I like to work, I think 
about tomorrow and next year, not putting all the coin in my pocket today like 
some do. Those of you as my facebook friends can see the video of my muddy 
disaster today in a few minutes when I post it.

Buyers, keep spending money with these people and your collections will be 
worthless, let's drive them out. 

Michael Farmer


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