On 03/02/2011 09:24 PM, Bryn Jones wrote:

Greetings.

I was wondering what the limits are, if any, for the thickness of concrete road beds in METRo.

We were using a value of 0.3018 m which worked but a shallower 0.3017 m did not work and METRo choked. Somewhere in between there seems to be an allowable threshold. Is this correct? If so, ~1 foot of concrete as a minimum seems awfully thick.

Do any of the other road bed materials (sand, asphalt and crushed rock) have maximum and/or minimum allowable thicknesses?

Thanks.

**S. Bryn Jones**

Content Development Meteorologist

Content Division

Pelmorex - The Weather Network

Tel.: (905) 829-1159 ext.1401

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Hi Bryn,

If you look at the documentation for the station configuration file (http://documentation.wikia.com/wiki/Input_station_%28METRo%29), you will find the following paragraph: *Warning*: Under particular condition, METRo will not be able to run with a given configuration. You will then see an error containing the string "/Numerical stability test failed/". See the first bullet of the changelog of version 3.0.1 <http://documentation.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28METRo%29#Changes_7> for more information.

The first bullet is :
* Stability check for the CFL condition <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courant%E2%80%93Friedrichs%E2%80%93Lewy_condition> in file |grille.f|. See https://gna.org/bugs/?7737

The CFL condition is well know in the Numerical Weather Prediction world. In METRo, this condition implies that, for numerical stability reasons, a given layer can not be less than a certain thickness. The thickness depends of the layer's type.

In the next METRo version, to be released this summer, you will be able to define you own layer types. Thus, you will be able to fine tune the station configuration by using the physical parameters (conductivity and capacity) of your layer.

But before that, you will have to play with the layer thickness. Using another type might also works and gives better results.

Hope this answers your question,

Miguel

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