Fair enough - just wanted to make sure something simpler hadn't been
overlooked.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Mathias Ettinger <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, I started from something similar in the first place. I think it is
> good enough for an external app, but not so good if we want a tight
> integration.
>
> First off all, the field duplication issue mentionned in the project is
> directly handled when modifying mezzanine and using the right base classes
> for the admin. As opposed to either patch django-modeltranslation or add
> redundant information in the translation.py file.
>
> Then, the form submit button issue requires a (minor) modification to
> mezzanine to works properly.
>
> Both the slugs being generated for the active language issue and the
> language selection on the frontend site need mezzanine to be aware of
> modeltranslation to work. Or at least mezzanine should consider the
> USE_I18N setting for these tasks.
>
> Translatable settings such as SITE_TITLE or SITE_TAGLINE would be a pain
> in the ass to handle from an external app. Needless to say it would be even
> harder to make it support custom translatable settings (those defined in an
> external app default.py). With this implementation it comes out of the box.
>
> I understand your reasoning in the sense that: the less file we modify,
> the less error-prone it will be and the less cumbersome it will be to
> maintain. But I have the feeling that a tighter integration will both make
> issues easier to spot and fix and ease the development of future features
> with translation needs. As an example, the pull request I made for
> cartridge compared to the two-files approach I proposed in the bug tracker (
> https://gist.github.com/Kniyl/11249940). Defining model methods outside
> of their class is anything but a good idea. That is why I spend my time
> trying to provide the best approach within mezzanine: I’d like to get rid
> off the ugly external app that I’m using.
>
> I’m also confident that this work is very close to completion. Missing
> features are: translation field for keywords (that I don’t know how to
> handle, yet), translation field for slug (that need further discussion) and
> a nice tab-based grouping of fields in the admin (that Eduardo plan on
> doing). The only concern for now is about where to put the translation
> validation logic. In my opinion, the admin is a good place rather than in
> the model, because it lets people who knows what they are doing achieve
> their goals more easily. But I might be wrong.
>
>
>
> Le lundi 26 mai 2014 15:24:50 UTC+2, Stephen McDonald a écrit :
>>
>> Any thoughts on this implementation?
>>
>> https://github.com/Romamo/mezzanine-modeltranslation/blob/master/
>> mezzaninemodeltranslation/translation.py
>>
>> It was mentioned in the discussion against the pull request but no
>> comments were made. I really like how this approach doesn't require any
>> change to Mezzanine itself, as opposed to the proposal here which is a real
>> concern.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Mathias Ettinger <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I need to take a decision, so I’ll ask here instead.
>>>
>>> I was trying to write some tests for modeltranslation integration and I
>>> stumbled upon an issue. Basically I was trying to test that slugs are
>>> always generated based on the default language using the model logic
>>> (Page.save()) whereas the slug issue was fixed using the admin logic
>>> (ModelAdmin.save_model()).
>>>
>>> Obviously my test fails. But I’m wondering wether it should be fixed by
>>> testing the admin behavior or by implementing the slug logic into the Page
>>> model.
>>>
>>> As a more general question, there are some fields that are
>>> auto-populated based on other one and both are marked for translation. They
>>> are handled by the admin which saves the model several times (one for each
>>> language). Is it acceptable or should this logic be moved to the
>>> Displayable model?
>>>
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