Hello,
As a Key note, this can show developers how they can take control of
their websites completely in python.
Currently app developers don't really need to know about web development
in python. I have been developing in python for 4 or 5 years and still
have not really gotten into using any web based system of python.
I think Mezzanine can really help to bridge the gap.
My experience and problem is that I don't have time to learn django on
django and bring it to Mezzanine. So mezzanine is the best CMS I have
found, but it is still a couple inches shy of me being able to invest
time to migrate all my websites over. If I have time to develop an app
for a website, then I would be able to learn django, but for basic
website migration and building, I really want to know how to get up and
running ASAP.
Taking the setup WordPress has, I need to:
1. create a DB and copy the WP files into a dir on my website. Then I
need to edit the settings to have the log in info for the db. Most web
hosts do this for me.
2. Log into my wp site, create an admin and change the home URL
3. Create web pages by clicking on "create page" and paste in html and
if I need to make a new page, I just type html and the text not in html
gets a <p> tag. For uploading media, I click on the "upload media" link
and it gives me a brows dialogue and once I tag it all correctly with
the built fields, I press OK and it inserts the correct URL into my page.
4. find a plugin like WooCommerce that lets me sell products. I setup my
paypal account's info with WooCommerce and make a product with a title,
text about it and price.
5. make a menu by clicking on the "create menu" button and add all my
pages into that.
6. Get a plugin that makes an xml map of my site and submit it to google.
7. Tell all my friends about my site.
Can Mezzanine deploying be put into under 10 steps like this? There is
no "learn PHP" it is all without programming at all. This gets users.
But then once I am invested into Mezzanine and I would like to make an
app for crowd funding or watching the Olympics I can build it in django.
A talk that breaks down these simple steps from getting a host to having
a built website should really help many python developers make the step
from WP or something else to Mezzanine.
In a world where time is money and everyone needs a website, Mezzanine
is a perfect answer. People just need to be shown this.
A talk about how to run an opensource project would also be pretty nice.
All the steps for setting up the package, using git, putting it up on
Git Hub, sinking it with Pypy, advertising it and whatnot would also be
really awesome.
thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
On 6/4/2015 9:22 AM, Graham wrote:
Ha, nice idea!
Sounds like a U2 concert I went to once, where Bono phoned people from
the stage!
g
On 04/06/15 19:01, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello Stephen,
Talk about how to get a website up and running with Mezzanine.
I would like to see the process from finding the correct hosting
package to run it to having a website up and creating users and pages.
When looking for a package I want to know:
1. What is it?
2. Why do I need it?
3. how do I get it to work?
You can answer the first two questions in two sentences and then the
3rd is your presentation.
This shouldn't overlap with your last talk at all! It would also be
something that can be posted on the website for new users. Perhaps
you can get a call from a client on stage and they say they would
like a website with a blog, an about me, a contact us and a store to
sell their hand made horse Santa hats.
Then you can log into a hosting service (you may be able to talk to
PythonAnywhere
<https://www.pythonanywhere.com/login/?next=/user/frastlin/consoles/>
if you don't have one that comes to mind) and deploy Mezzanine. Then
you can create the different pages and have someone from the audience
visit your website!
I think this would really do a lot for showing people just how simple
Mezzanine is, much more than just a talk. Wouldn't you also be more
comfortable using Mezzanine rather than just talking about it?
thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
On 6/4/2015 3:52 AM, Stephen McDonald wrote:
Hi all,
TLDR: I need help thinking of a good talk topic for Mezzanine at
PyCon Philippines next month.
A bit of background - last year I gave a talk on Mezzanine at PyCon
APAC in Taiwan, if you haven't listened to it it's available online
[1]. Fair warning, I'm not a very experienced speaker and I think
some people might find my style literally boring, but if you're a
huge fan of Mezzanine you'll probably find it interesting. I tried
to make this the definitive talk on Mezzanine, covering everything
from the background that led to it, how it's constructed, its
features, and the surrounding ecosystem. I think I tried to pack too
much into it at once, as I went somewhat over the allotted time.
Now for the actual purpose of this email - next month I'm giving
another talk on Mezzanine at PyCon Philippines [2], and I'm
absolutely stumped for ideas, so I wanted to ask everyone here if
they had any suggestions! I'd honestly love to talk about something
other than Mezzanine, but in the context of PyCon I don't think I
could do anything as effectively as covering something Mezzanine
related. Also it's a keynote talk, so I need to really know what I'm
talking about.
At this stage the only idea I have is redoing the previous talk from
last year, trimming down its contents (basically cutting it in
half), and hopefully making it a bit better - but I would love to do
something different. Can anyone think of a particular area of
Mezzanine that would make for a good talk? Perhaps something from
the previous talk that could use more focus, or something I
overlooked entirely. Long shot - but I'd love an idea unrelated to
Mezzanine too.
All suggestions welcome, there are definitely no bad ideas.
Thanks a lot for your help!
[1] http://blog.jupo.org/2014/08/21/pycon-apac-keynote-mezzanine/
[2] http://pycon.python.ph/theme.html
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