I'm inclined to agree that this information isn't the easiest to find even
though it's in the FAQ.
I would suggest replacing the paragraph in each project's readme:
This repository exists for bug fixes and minor enhancements, and should
> some day become redundant, once the original {% project %} becomes a
> feasibly stable dependency target.
with a line incorporating that canonical FAQ link.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Ryne Everett <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was about to suggest adding that to the FAQ but then I realized it's
> already there.
> http://mezzanine.jupo.org/docs/frequently-asked-questions.html#why-are-grappelli-and-filebrowser-forked
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Stephen McDonald <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The forks have diverged from their origins significantly - features
>> removed, Mezzanine specific things added. The fact they're separate repos
>> from Mezzanine is insignificant, their code bases might as well be part of
>> Mezzanine itself. This has been thrashed out multiple times on this list
>> already.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Derek Adair <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've spent about 1-2 hours looking for this specific subject on this
>>> forum and in google in general and i'm not getting much results other than
>>> this
>>> page
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mezzanine-users/grappelli$20alternative$20%7Csort:relevance/mezzanine-users/Z9R4XX7K1B8/MyCW2Gia-EsJ>
>>> which
>>> pretty much confirms that its just not been done b/c its a lot of work AND
>>> *there
>>> really isn't much reason too*? is that correct? I really am coming
>>> from the same perspective of the poster in that thread and i'm just trying
>>> to get a feel for what the best option is.
>>>
>>> Could you maybe give me a tl;dr; other than just not worth the effort?
>>> Just trying to understand.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 6:30:55 PM UTC-6, Derek Adair wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for updating those repositories it just didn't paint a very
>>>> good picture when i'm trying to debug issues and it looks like a very
>>>> stagnant project.
>>>>
>>>> I'll do some more digging but I really just wanted to engage the
>>>> community to see if anyone else has done any work on this or gauge the
>>>> interest. based on the responses it sounds like pretty much no.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-6, Stephen McDonald wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Derek Adair <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Better support from the grapelli project. There are issue's
>>>>>> that are ancient in both repositories with zero interaction from the
>>>>>> project owners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> There were 9 open issues across the grappelli/filebrowser forks a
>>>>> moment ago - half of them were out of date and long ago resolved, so I've
>>>>> closed those now. Among the remaining are a couple of feature requests, a
>>>>> couple of obscure platform issues (Windows etc), and the one that you
>>>>> recently commented on.
>>>>>
>>>>> So realistically, there's one issue - the one you claim to have lost
>>>>> a lot of time on. Let's not get carried away here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. There are almost NO docs on either of these projects. Any
>>>>>> issues are very complicated to debug because of this.
>>>>>> 2. The longer this project waits to do this the harder it will
>>>>>> be. Best to just get this over with now.
>>>>>> 3. Less work. Why even bother maintaining a fork when those
>>>>>> reasons have presumably been resolved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This should have been done immediately once it was at all possible to
>>>>>> for all of the above reasons. I haven't even really compared
>>>>>> feature sets these are just philosophical reasons why I believe
>>>>>> upgrading is the right decision here. However, I *completely* get
>>>>>> why it has been put off. This kind of work is *horrible* and rife
>>>>>> with potential breaking changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll get back to you with some features, as for specific rasons there
>>>>>> are some pain points in integrating with django storages/s3boto... which
>>>>>> would have been alleviated in the new grapelli version. The new
>>>>>> filebrowser looks to be a lot cleaner with handling 3rd party
>>>>>> integrations
>>>>>> (like s3boto).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also just curious why this hasn't been done and doesn't really
>>>>>> seem to even be talked about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been talked about extensively on this list many times, if you dig
>>>>> around you'll be able to paint a much clearer picture than all the
>>>>> conclusions you've jumped to.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like an obvious win if it is at all possible, maybe its not!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-6, Ryne Everett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm pretty set on figuring out a way to leverage the new grapelli
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there specific features you want? "Newer is better" isn't going
>>>>>>> to get much traction around here, but if you can point to advantages
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> cannot be realistically achieved in grapelli-safe that might be
>>>>>>> compelling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At any rate, what I would probably do is try to fork and upgrade
>>>>>>> mezzanine-grappelli.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Derek Adair <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found this <https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mezzanine-grappelli> project
>>>>>>>> but its about 2 years w/o seeing any action, and is built w/ 3.0 not
>>>>>>>> 4.0.
>>>>>>>> I filed an issue asking what was up with the project and why was it
>>>>>>>> abandoned to maybe get some insight to see if this was even a good
>>>>>>>> idea or
>>>>>>>> not. I'm pretty set on figuring out a way to leverage the new
>>>>>>>> grapelli so
>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts or work put towards
>>>>>>>> these efforts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm additionally considering just flat out forking mezzanine if an
>>>>>>>> upgrade path is too difficult or impossible.... as I have no code
>>>>>>>> implemented in this framework, yet. Just trying to think long-term
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 12:06:11 PM UTC-6, Derek Adair wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there any reason not to be using the official grapelli now?
>>>>>>>>>
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