Re: [mfg-smartcam] SmartCAM Development and SupportReestablished as of 12-15-03

[Steve Fobell]

I became the cnc programmer at my company in September of 2000. Smartcam ffm 11.5 and advanced turning 11.5 were in place when I received my un-official week of training from the programmer that was leaving. In December of 2002 my company sent me to Michigan for my official week of training using Unigraphics manufacturing, which was purchased in 01' along with 2 seats of mold wizard design software (very expensive stuff). I'll just say that although I think UG is an incredibly powerful tool, for 3-d stuff. Forget about 2-d. I also think it is an incredibly complicated tool. It makes the simple stuff difficult and the difficult stuff easy, go figure. We have 4503 files currently in mdata and tdata, that doesn't include files that are archived on CD. I have looked at Mastercam, Gibbs, Esprit as well as some others and in my humble opinion they can't hold a match to SC, for to many reasons to list. P.S.        I can't wait to see what the first of revision of smarter-cam is going to look, and act like.        And I think if we have to pay, even a small fee to stay on the list I would like to be        given  a chance to see the new product. Maybe MRS could give the loyalists a       chance w/ a sample that times out or something!!!?? Vivra SmartCAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Steve Fobell CNC Programmer Comet Tool Co. Pitman, N.J. 08071 (609) 256-1070 fax (609) 256-1770 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.comettool.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bigelow, Louis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] SmartCAM Development and SupportReestablished as of 12-15-03 > we have UG here. quit using it. have too many "work around" for things > that are a direct function in our current software. in 5 years have not used > it for > a single line of turning code. (I have 5 4axis lathes and automated timing > codes are > mandatory for fast programming) also encountered a bug in v17 that is > devastating > to what we could do with it. (yes the bug is still in the latest release, if > you don't > buy 2,000 seats you are insignificant and they won't fix your bugs.) > Louis > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Sharp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] SmartCAM Development and > > SupportReestablished as of 12-15-03 > > > > We got Unigraphics last year, it is a capable piece of software. It is > > very > > complicated. Still learning the in's and out's. > > > > I still use SC everyday because normally I do not have the lead time > > available to get the code done using UG. I am getting more familiar with > > UG > > but I am still much faster using SC. > > > > We have a little over 6500 SC programs. > > > > This is good news. SC is a great product and with the help of this group > > is > > becomes an excellent product. > > > > Mike Sharp > > Western Pneumatics > > Eugene Oregon > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeremy Noland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:36 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] SmartCAM Development and SupportReestablished > > as > > of 12-15-03 > > > > MRS. or who it concerns, > >   This is very good news. In time's of all product's advancing ie; CAD/CAM > > packages it is nice to see someone stepping in and taking over a proven > > product (SmartCAM) that has been mainly kept going by the people that use > > it. If it wasn't for this user group I probably would have given up on SC > > a > > long time ago. I sent an e-mail out a while back asking the group what a > > good alternative would be to SC to be more compatible with newer CAD > > software where were using solid's and such. Although I would never get rid > > of SC I got answer's like Master Cam, Esprit, etc. and we finally semi > > decided on Esprit, but to date we have not yet bought any other software > > for > > programming but we are looking to do something in the very near future. I > > would be more than happy and thrilled to stay with SC if it were brought > > to > > a modern operating system to keep up with the current market. > >   We have just over 7000 working files going and that does not include > > programs for making tooling and misc. program's. > >   I  would be more than happy to give any help, Idea's, or comment's as I > > am > > sure the group would also to make this happen. > >   I think many thanks should go out to this SC group of people for all > > there > > effort's and for nothing being asked for in return, but to help your > > fellow > > programmer out. > >   My hope's are high that this all work's out and that we can get an up to > > date SmartCam going again. > > Long Live SmartCam. > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > Jeremy Noland > > CNC Programmer / Prototype > > 20522 Builders Street > > Bend, Oregon 97701 > > (541)330-2149 > > > > >>> "John Gent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/16/2003 1:07:49 PM >>> > > Hello all, > > > > Yes, it's true. SmartCAM rises from the dark! > > > > We have some systems in place, but your responses will dictate what we do > > next. Certainly among the list toppers will be to rebuild to the new > > operating systems and clear up the annoyances that have cropped up since > > 1998. > > > > The development and support structure is mostly in place, but again, it's > > direction will be influenced by your reaction. We think that fixing low > > risk > > bugs will be a good plan for early releases, and fit in as a by product of > > longer range development. > > > > We are also taking over licensing (we're taking it all over, soon). Please > > keep in mind that EDS has been able to do this in the past, gratis, due to > > their size, staff and bankroll. We do not have this luxury so there will > > be > > administrative cost involved. It will be nominal, and based on your > > preferred method of transaction - electronically being the least > > expensive. > > > > I am extremely excited about this opportunity, and can't wait to get this > > rolling. Michael said once that he'll "drive her until the wheels fall > > off". > > We have new tires for that hot rod! > > > > John Gent > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > ====================================================================== > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ====================================================================== >