[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, but here I just can't keep my mouth shut. > > > Quoting Joe Apuzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> Recently as some of you know I've spent a week at BSA summer camp with >> my Son and his Troop. >> I was disturbed to find that most kids are still using dangerous >> programs like Lime Wire and Bear Share to get music. >> > > Dangerous? As you all well know, there are many methods to anonymize > such programs; not that the kids know or care. > > http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article4144585.ece > > Considering the scope of this issue; do you really think everyone is > going to get caught? > Yup, trading music online is now just as bad as selling crack cocaine, or robbing a bank ( thanks to the RIAA ) The current body of laws and current court cases back this up. If you TRADE music ONLINE your committing a crime, period end of discussion. The RIAA has hired 5+ firms to seek out P2P traders and extort hundreds if not thousands of dollars. It's being done now, someone you know may have gotten the extortion letter. >> Bottom Line: IF YOU SHARE MUSIC ONLINE.. _*DON'T*_ it's illegal and you >> WILL BE CAUGHT! >> >> But you can still listen to online music. Recently I've been poking >> around http://www.last.fm I would suggest checking it out a creating a >> free account. There are free players for all major OS's (there is one in >> the Ubuntu repos) and it's has an interesting "social networking" >> interface. (if anyone out there has any tips on controlling play lists >> please share) >> >> Anyway that's great for when your at your PC, but how to make it portable? >> >> GUI: http://thelastripper.com >> Command Line: >> http://www.linuxmonitor.net/blog/2007/03/ripping-mp3s-from-lastfm-with-linux.html >> >> So you end up with a bunch of mp3 files that are "128 KB/s, 44KHz (joint >> stereo)" tagged correctly, perfectly cut. >> >> (Please be aware that recordings of radio streams, may NOT be legal, I >> recommend that you investigate local laws, and your moral compass before >> using) >> > > Good point, I cannot, for the life of me see a moral difference. Are > the musicians getting paid? > This got me thinking, see next point >> So even if you don't store them for latter use, last.fm music plays at >> "128 KB/s, 44KHz (joint stereo)" making it the most full and enjoyable >> "net radio" experience. Also check out the BMPx project ( >> http://bmpx.backtrace.info/site/BMPx_Homepage ) it not only is a stand >> alone last.fm player but also a tunes in to all net radio and is a pod >> catcher. >> >> Joe >> > > I have been a musician most of my life; I come from a family of > musicians. The RIAA has been involved in ripping off musicians since > it's inception. Only recently have they expanded out to suing > colleges and the public. The truth is music is (or is becoming) FREE. > This is an unavoidable consequence of the internet as it is > currently constructed. What every musician knows is that If you are > not listening to them, you are probably listening to someone else. > And the more that a musician is being listened to, the more likely > he/she might get a paying gig, a photo shoot, a recording contract, a > levi or pepsi ad, MTV, etc, etc, etc...and in the end: sell a cd or two. > clyde > > I pondered this for some time, and you hit a point that I completely missed! That's the whole point of using last.fm ( or other net radio ), to explore and find new music and artists. Your not ripping an album ( thus cheating the musician ), but making the net radio experience portable. I'm sure the musicians would not mind one song as it will probably lead to an album purchase.
The other point is current FM radio "sucks", networks like clear channel, destroy artists and promote corporate stooge radio. Net Radio offers a alternative, allowing independents a chance, also you have a better chance at hearing new artists that you like, and are deserving of your support. So: 1) go ahead and make internet radio portable! 2) support the musicians you like, find new ones to support! 3) post some more "alternatives" to last.fm, sites that deliver better listing value Joe >> _______________________________________________ >> Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org >> http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug >> Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) MHVLS Auditorium >> Jun 4 - Sqeak! and eToys >> Jul 2 - KVM (Tenative) >> Aug 6 - Zenos >> Sep 3 - TBD >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org > > http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug > Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) MHVLS Auditorium > > Jun 4 - Sqeak! and eToys > Jul 2 - KVM (Tenative) > Aug 6 - Zenos > Sep 3 - TBD > >
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