On Sunday 20 July 2008, Jack Chastain wrote:
> >   Concerning the laptop keyboard -- if you have multimedia keys, ...
>
> Thanks Chris - no - it is more that on the native keyboard, the keys have
> German and European keycaps - which makes it a little confusing when your
> touch skills are at best about 80%.

   Oh, okay -- I had understood what you had said, but not why.  Now I get it.  
Early on I had learned to type with six fingers, and probably just as fast as 
I can now with touch typing, but I needed to see the keys, so I understand.
   I still need to learn the Dvorak layout.  ;-)

> > > I would like to start thinking about doing some programming work (in a
> > > language or languages as yet undefined) on the system and initially
> > > installed KDevelop. Have a few problems there and if anyone would care
> > > to share some experience regarding initial setup of that system, it
> > > would be well received.
> >
> >    I tried KDevelop and found it confusing and "heavy", and ended up
> > using either Kate, or the Nano command-line editor after copying
> > /etc/nanorc to ~/.nanorc and uncommenting the desired colorization regex
> > sets near the end of the config file.
>
> KDevelop itself doesn't look too bad (considering I have been a pretty
> strictly vi/command-line nut for about 10 years now) and I may continue to
> fight with it, but I will also look at your suggestions. I tend to prefer
> the simple things, but have reasons to look at IDE platforms as well. It
> has just been an awful long time.

   That happens. 

> Right now, I am having a miserable time 
> with the canned "hello world" sample giving Qt errors that I just can't
> work out. Sigh. It isn't even "my code"!

   Be mindful of which Qt development tree you have installed; you might be 
trying to compile Qt 3 programs with the Qt 4 development tree... or 
vice-versa.  I found it easier to use Qt's 'qmake' to create the Makefile and 
which got rid of a lot of the compile difficulty I was running into.
   Also, since you're running Ubutnu, you need to install several -dev 
libraries in order to compile programs, such as libqt4-dev [or 
libqt3-mt-dev], along with qt4-dev-tools, etc.  The development libraries are 
separated from the rest of the binaries to save space, because most people 
don't need them -- but you do.  And you can install both Qt3 development as 
well as Qt4 development at the same time, BTW.

> But yes, I agree that at a very first look, it looks pretty massive. Maybe
> it will be worth it - I am not yet sure. I will find out just how tenacious
> I wish to be.

   I figure I can go back to KDevelop once I have a large enough project that 
needs a big IDE.  Kate can deal with several files at once as well as an 
overall project, and it's a much lighter interface.  However, somehow I found 
myself longing for working in a text console with colorized code.  I 
tried 'jed' for a bit, which was pretty good but I didn't like the way it 
wanted to format code it showed, so I ended up back with Nano.

   I just want something that keeps me working and productive.

   -- Chris

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Chris Knadle
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