Update: Now Ubuntu 64 9.04 is running stable, no more X lockups but that is
only do to turning off compiz completely. Now running with Ubuntu's Hardware
closed source nVidia driver aka 180 after a "to bare metal" re-install of
Ubuntu.

More evidence that the nVidia 8100 can do the job.
I know I can turn off the on-board video chip in Bios but Linux kernels may
still detect it since this board seems to only care about MS. I was
wondering if anyone has actaully done it.

Joe


On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Chris Knadle <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Saturday 16 May 2009, Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
> > Hardware advice, Linux related
> >
> > Ok as many of you know I stupidly purchased a Motherboard one night
> > at 2am, not thinking clearly.
> > I wound up with the BioStar TF720 A20+ board which has a nVidia
> > 8100 integrated into the North-Bridge chip.
> > I have had little to no success in getting Linux to run as
> > workstation on this MB, it will lockup randomly which X needs to be
> > re-cycled.
>
> Which drivers did you try?  I have to ask, because there are now
> several versions of the proprietary 'nvidia' driver, as well as the 2D
> open source 'nv' driver, and they all behave slightly differently.
> Theoretically for GeForce 8 devices the latest proprietary driver
> version 180.xx should be the one to use, but the only way to really
> tell is to read "Appendix A" in the README that comes with the
> drivers, which lists which specific GeForce devices are supported.
>
> > The other problem came when I upgraded to a new Acer
> > 21.5" LCD ( 1920x1080 ) monitor. Now in any OS mkv and DVD peg the
> > cpu at 100% and will drop frames ( this on a dule core AMD 2.4Ghz
> > with 4Gb of memory ).
>
> HD video does the same to my Desktop, especially that .mkv test file
> you gave me on CD -- though I have an older Intel 2.6 GHz P4.  So this
> doesn't surprise me -- I have a sneaking suspicion that the only way
> to play HD video without bringing a box to its knees is to use an HD
> accelerator.
>
> > Lastly the HDTV tunner card I have ( Linux
> > only one http://www.pchdtv.com/ which I will eventually give a full
> > talk on ) can not seem to display at full 1080p, it's shutters
> > badly now since I can display all the pixels.
>
> That could be one of three models -- and here again the card has the
> host computer do the MPEG2 decoding rather than onboard.
>
> > In my case gaming in not an issue, This system is mainly and
> > foremost my personal "HDTV" and Linux server.
> > It's second role is family email, word processing and homework
> > station, video is not critical for it's other uses.
> >
> > Thus I don't want to waist the money I put in the MB, it is stable
> > and other then the Video issues it's fine.
> > My idea is it shutoff the MB video chip and use a new ATI video
> > card. This will allow the North-Bridge to map all 4Gb of memory for
> > the CPU and not have to steal cycles for whatever the hokey 8100 /
> > nForce720a was doing. Also the ATI is better designed for HD and
> > can do upscaleing of DVD's on the GPU. So I think the Radeon HD
> > 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express for about $60 should solve my
> > issues, since it has the following:
> >
> > Selling points:
> > 1) Support for DVI and HDMI out with native 1920x1080 resolutions
> > and above. 2) Linux 32 and 64 bit drivers
> > 3) H.264 rendering ( aka MKV ) acceleration
> > 4) DVD upscaling on the GPU, no hit to the CPU
>
> I think 3) and 4) are the critical pieces.
>
> > 5) Uses about 1/2 the wattage of the comparable nVidia GPU
> >
> > Downside:
> > 1) NOT a gamer video card.
> > 2) ATI does not have the best Linux history, my last ATI card was a
> > nightmare to get working under Linux and impossible with 64bit
> >
> > So comments?
>
> My only experience with ATI cards were before the days of 'fglrx'
> drivers, and my experiences were generally pooor.
>
> > Has anyone "turned off" the onboard video chip and added a better
> > Video card with success?
>
> Yes.  Usually there's a setting in the BIOS to all disabling the
> onboard video.
>
> > If anyone has experience with modern ATI video cards and Linux I
> > would love a better recommendation if you can.
> > Is there any reason to go to the higher HD 4800 class board ( at
> > double the money ) ?
> > Or go lower say the HD 4550 for $45 ( still has Linux 32/64 drivers
> > )?
>
> Can't help here -- haven't used any in years.
>
>   -- Chris
>
> --
>
> Chris Knadle
> [email protected]
>
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