Well almost, the design in my head is like a modern WiFi router, but with a
tad bit more server.
We should just add a modem circuit to a router circuit and do it as
a Ethernet attach.

But if you wanted to be more futuristic ( and a bit more expensive ) could
just get one of these http://www.ettus.com/products
and use the GNu-Radio stack http://gnuradio.org to become the radio itself.
Thus could use any frequency ( like Star Trek or Star Gate )

But back to reality are there any projects that can take low cost
GMRS radios and deliver 9600bps-1mbs?
If not then can we get the right people together and propose something? I
sure between me you and Ed we can design something...

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Chris Knadle <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 2011-05-01 17:14, Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
>
>> Yup saw that article.
>>
>> I guess what I want, which I can't find is the following:
>> 1) Taken cheap/affordable GMRS radios ( can get a pair of 36-Mile ones
>> for around $70 )
>> 2) Build a Modem that does 9600bps (
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/kd2bd/9k6modem/ ) or can the
>> software one be used?
>>
>
> The software method I was discussing earlier used the sound card for doing
> AFSK, but the faster 9600 baud used at 70cm an up uses FSK rather than AFSK,
> so I'm not sure if it'll support that or not.
>
>
>  3) Then create a Linux stack that in effect can pass information in
>> a diaspora kinda way, some sort of ad-hoc mesh routeing that can include
>> the Internet.
>>
>
> Okay, something to keep in mind is that anything sent over packet radio
> must be non-encrypted.  However other than that one concern, the hardware to
> do what you want already exists.  For instance, one of the things I tried in
> the mid-90's was sending "packet email" of sorts to an packet <-> internet
> gateway that was located in Arizona.  It slowly got routed between nodes
> somehow until it got to the packet gateway, then was sent out via email over
> the internet.
>
> That's the good news; the bad news is it took an entire week.  I was amazed
> it worked at all, tell you the truth -- but it worked on the first shot.
>
> These days there are likely far more packet <-> internet gateways available
> (that are closer by), or it may be easy enough you could build your own
> (because these days internet access is far more available than it was back
> then) -- so you can definitely do what you're thinking of trying.  It's just
> a matter of the details of specifically how to do it.
>
>
>  That is let's say the hardware existed ( humor me )
>> Could a old school "store and forward" mesh/ad-hock network be created?
>> Then could that said network be used for emergencies ( Think
>> http://sahanafoundation.org/ ) when needed
>> and development/socialization when not? ( Think
>> https://joindiaspora.com/ ). It would also need a layer that could route
>> on and off the existing Internet. That is it would be kinda cool to do
>> thinks like what OLPC does with it's routeing ( Think
>>
>> http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/could-olpcs-mesh-net-work-in-us-rural-areas/)
>>
>> So I guess we start building the modem first then coding the stack?
>>
>
> I think it's mainly "just the modem" you need to worry about.  The rest has
> to do with details and understanding of how Packet Radio works and how the
> various packet radio systems can be used.
>
>
> --
>  -- Chris
>
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> Chris Knadle
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