>Well, you either have to feel like we've come a long way in a short time, or we squander resources on over blown code... either way, here's were we are... adding voice-over to the (way to many emails I get everyday) is very nice in deed..and then there's Pandora... and my old XT with its wonderful slow blinking cursor now lives to generate sound sources for noise music compositions.
Nick WordStar used WAY less memory AND WAY less disk space. > > I had WordStar AND SpellStar AND my document(s) AND my CP/M-80 Operating > System on my single 8" floppy machine with 16 KB of RAM. My 8" > single-side > single-density floppies held 246 KB! > > Granted WordStar only had limited formatting options, but it was plenty > for > the printers we had on the '70s. > > Wes > On Mar 4, 2012 12:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >to your question: Or get used to being an early adopter anyway? there >> is >> a problem -- what will you do if the computing world goes against you... >> or you could also join the side of the fence that demands that library >> functions should be adaptable by all languages, yours to pick and choose >> and that syntax should be up to the end user's choice as well... >> certainly there are enough interpreters available to allow this. You >> could code in your syntax of choice... {back tor reality}... Object >> Oriented paradigm works best if you can keep it simple... complexity >> grows exponentially which makes debugging damn near impossible: a-la >> Java >> Frames..etc >> >> And yes I miss my WordStar :)) Except for search and spell checking, >> WordStar did everything with one hell of amount less memory than my >> OpenOffice :)) >> >> My Two cents, >> an absentee member of HVLUG, >> Nick >> >> >> On Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:14:14 PM, Jack Chastain wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Joseph Apuzzo <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > So it all boils down to thinking in the correct Programming >> >> > paradigm<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_paradigm> >> >> > >> >> > ! >> >> >> >> Yes - Precisely. Which of course is the exact problem for a mind that >> no >> >> longer is as flexible as it once was. >> > >> > At least some studies have shown that the mind can be flexible even up >> > past >> > age 70 and that some people can learn at that age just as fast as >> someone >> > in >> > their 20's. Un-learning is more difficult than learning, though. ;-) >> > >> >> I used to keep count of the number of word processors (remember when >> we >> >> called them that?) I could use - fluently - without having to resort >> to >> >> a >> >> book too terribly often. I stopped keeping track around 20. As far as >> I >> >> know, I could manipulate a daisywheel printer (oh man, am I dating >> >> myself >> >> here) with Scripsit (Gaaaa!) and draw things like boxes around stuff. >> I >> >> even have (still) the HP PCL manual. Why in the name of all that's >> >> ridiculous am I keeping THAT thing? >> > >> > Maybe in the back of your mind you still think it has a use, otherwise >> you >> > wouldn't keep it. On occasion I keep something old and outdated like >> that >> > because I think it might have a purpose. >> > >> > For instance I still have a 5-CD set from InfoMagic of "Linux" from >> Nov >> > 1995. >> > I also have a 6-CD set of the same from June 1998. I recently tried >> to >> > install both to find out what window managers Slackware came with at >> the >> > time. >> > I wasn't able to get the Nov 1995 Slackware 3.0 working [trouble >> switching >> > boot floppy images], but I was able to install the June 1998 version >> of >> > Slackware 3.5 and get it working. In mid-1998 Slackware 3.5 came with >> 4 >> > choices: mwm, twm, fvwm2, and fvwm95. [Getting XFree86 working to be >> > ablet to >> > see them... that's a whole other matter.] >> > >> >> I either worked or dabbled in BASIC, forth, APL, pascal, C, fortran, >> >> COBOL, >> >> perl, shell and a few other silly things. It used to be easy (OK - >> not >> >> APL). >> > >> > The first programming language I remember was HPL, which was mainly a >> > combination of Lisp and Forth. A portion of it lives on today on HP >> > calculators. Then several different styles of BASIC (Z80, TI 99 4/A, >> C64, >> > GWBasic, QBasic, etc), Pascal, C, 8086 Assembly, C++, and on from >> there... >> > >> >> And now - if I think of getting out of ksh, I shudder and stare at my >> >> screen for 15 minutes before thinking I can even start. Don't get >> old. >> >> >> >> :-) >> > >> > Or get used to being an early adopter anyway? ;-) >> > >> > -- Chris >> > >> > -- >> > Chris Knadle >> > [email protected] >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org >> > http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug >> > >> > Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College >> > Mar 7 - Desktop Shootout - 9th Anniversary of MHVLUG >> > Apr 4 - An Intro to Chef >> > May 2 - May 2012 Meeting >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org >> http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug >> >> Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College >> Mar 7 - Desktop Shootout - 9th Anniversary of MHVLUG >> Apr 4 - An Intro to Chef >> May 2 - May 2012 Meeting >> > _______________________________________________ > Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org > http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug > > Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College > Mar 7 - Desktop Shootout - 9th Anniversary of MHVLUG > Apr 4 - An Intro to Chef > May 2 - May 2012 Meeting > _______________________________________________ Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College Apr 4 - An Intro to Chef May 2 - Git Jun 6 - June 2012 Meeting
