Before tearing it apart you might try switching to low-cost 30W50 dino oil 
for a couple hundred miles.  It may hurt your gas mileage a little but it 
won't hurt the motor and if things do change you'll have a better idea what 
you're up against..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Van Lieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Miatapower" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02 PM
Subject: What to look for with bad HLAs/Valve springs


> Patient: 1992 1.6, 150K on her, last 60K FMII. Conservative tune, 93
> octane, M1 oil for past 100K.
>
> A week ago, I pull out of my garage to leave after stopping into my
> house to be greeted by
> very loud clatter from the engine. This is not normal injector noise or
> lifter tick from a hot start: it
> sounds pure metal on metal in rhythm with valve train.
>
> I have parked the car and been trying to do basic tests since then. If
> an HLA was clogged,
> I did a oil change, flush, and have put new M1 in. Now, the car will
> typicall start with no
> noise immediately being heard when I cold start the car. However either
> on its own, or
> with some throttle goosing, I can get the clacking to come back after 15
> seconds - 1 min
> of run time.
>
> Car has good oil pressure from the OPG in car, idles nice and smooth. A
> few times while listening
> to the car with a mechanics stethoscope, the engine did suddenly stutter
> a bit, and shake, then
> recovered back to a smooth idle (with lots of noise)
>
> With the stethoscope, I think I can isolate it to the 2 or 3 cylinder,
> though my ear is very
> untrained in the art of where is the bad noise coming from inside my
> engine.
>
> Being as it can come and go, I am SWAG'ing this is not a bottom end
> issue (rod knock,
> bearing issues, etc...) that you would hear all the time. Knowing HLAs
> work on oil pressure,
> and can be finicky, I can try to logically conclude the variation could
> be them as well. Hey,
> I am trying :)
>
> I realize its difficult to advice via email on cases like this...but
> being outside Philadelphia, I can't
> drop it off at FM :(
>
> I am not afraid to put some time and money into her: the chassis is
> solid and I have
> a lot of love into this car (its yellow if that helps sway anyone :). I
> am just not sure what I should be looking for
> when I pull the valve cover, cams and examine the HLAs, let alone should
> I be thinking of
> pulling the head and valve springs, etc...
>
> As swank-tastic as an FM built head is, I think that is overkill for my
> older but not dead yet
> miata.
>
> Its coming on perfect miata weather right now and she's parked in the
> garage. Help a fellow
> brother out here :)
>
> Thanks for listening folks,
>
> - b
>
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