I went to see a geothermal installation at a nearby open house.  The people
are plenty granola so may be biased but the house was large and they claimed
a 75% energy reduction heating and cooling.  

 

There are also well based systems for those with small yards or who don't
want to do the large amount of digging required.

 

I've heard such good things about using the ground's steady 55 degrees for
this that I think it should be in the national building code.

 

 

I also have been looking into solar hot water due to the subsidies available
this year but a large amount of heat in the summer can damage tre panels if
they are not circulating.

 

Also, ray cayer is a friend of mine here is his site, you may wish to email
him directly and it's possible he either has info or can direct you.

 

http://www.raycotechnologies.org/

 

 

In my opinion, you are SMART to do all your research first before going in
for an alter5native source.  But equally SMART to try and make it work. I
don't see any reason that oil will be cheap again.  Maybe it will settle
back somewhat, but my guess is that these alternatives are a solid
investment.

 

I heat with anthracite coal, btw. Costs me $650/yr for 75 degree house.

 

 

HTH

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Wills
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:49 AM
To: Miatapower
Subject: NMC: geothermal vs. "normal" heat pump vs. ???

 

Hey gang,
Since you guys are the smartest people I know, I thought I'd throw this
question out here:

My AC unit has expired, and my propane heat system is costing way too much
to operate, since propane has nearly doubled in price in the last 24 months.
So... it's time to think heat pump, I suppose.

My options are a normal air-coupled heat pump, or a geothermal system.

The heat pump would just be your standard type system, with either propane
or electric resistance heat as a backup.  I don't know much more than
that... I don't have a price or the SEER rating yet.

The geo system would be a horizontal closed loop system.  About 400' of
ground loop buried 5-6' deep.  They recommend a backup heat system for this
as well, which could be either propane or electric resistance.  The geo
system also includes a new water heater - apparently the geo system will
take care of about 80% of the hot water generation we require.  SEER rating
is 21 and the installed price is about $20k... yikes.
I've seen data that says the ground loop is good for 50+ years, and the
indoor equipment has a 22 year life span.  

BTW, it's a 3 ton unit and we live in Southern Indiana... so it's about
90*/90% humidity in summer and can be in the teens in the winter.

Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with geothermal vs. other types
of HVAC? 

Thanks!

chuck wills

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