Or at least you'll get better brake pad mileage if nothing else.

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From: "Aleksandr Milewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ken Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Bill Cardell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "miatapower List" 
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: MPG up 50% so far


> Right, but this assumes that there is no compression braking in the
> engine. You can't do the same coast in gear because you have to turn
> the motor/pump air through it.
>
> Now, if you're braking during that coast to keep your speed down,
> you'll get better fuel economy staying in gear and using the engine
> for most of that braking.
>
> -Z
>
> On Jun 16, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Ken Bogart wrote:
>
>> Not exactly sure how to calculate it, but if I use some *rough*
>> estimates, this is what I come up with:
>>
>> Assuming 24mpg to maintain 60MPH and 1/2 gal per hour to maintain
>> idle.
>>
>> Drive for 1 hour and you would use 2.5 gallons (no coasting). If you
>> can coast for 25% of that in neutral (15 minutes), you would consume 2
>> gallons (1.875 + .125 for idle) (30mpg). If you can do the same coast
>> in gear, you would consume 1.875 gallons. (32mpg)
>>
>> 30MPG is about right for steady 60mph, which is about 2 gallons per
>> hour at 60mph. Of course, this "math" all depends on the underlying
>> assumptions which are a SWAG.
>>
>> Ideally, if I could communte downhill both ways, I suspect I could
>> attain 50MPG or more...
>>
>>
>> KEN
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Aleksandr Milewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > wrote:
>>> Bill Cardell wrote:
>>>> Does the slowing from the wheels
>>>> driving the car (which then has to re-accelerate more than if the
>>>> car
>>>> coasted) outweigh shutting off the fuel?
>>>
>>> I have to believe that the losses from running that big air pump from
>>> the wheels far outweigh the fuel burned idling. I have a 5 or so mile
>>> run on my commute that I can dead-stick. I'll have to play with the
>>> trip
>>> computer in the Audi. :)
>>>
>>>> As far as safety aspect, I had
>>>> an audi that did this from the factory. 5000TD, if your foot was
>>>> completely off the gas it free-wheeled.
>>>
>>> Automatic or manual? Lots of automatic transmissions have an overrun
>>> clutch such that there's no engine braking in top gear. I know the
>>> 727
>>> Torqueflite in my old Jeep was that way. And yes, it's very strange.
>>>
>>> I still get caught out occasionally by the asymmetry of the turbo
>>> motor
>>> in the A6. Not nearly as much compression braking as there is power
>>> under boost. ;)
>>>
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