*Example of Global Supply and Demand - Quote from a Agora Financial*

"The Economist reports that car ownership in Russia is well below that of other developing countries. In Russia, about 200 out of every 1,000 people own a car. The ratio is over 500 out of every 1,000 people in Europe, and about 800 in the U.S.

In 2007, new car sales were up 36% by volume --- some 57% by value, reflecting the new buying power of Russia's burgeoning middle class. Some think that this year, Russia will surpass Germany as Europe's largest car buyer. "[According to Ernst & Young], by 2012, Russians will be buying more than 5 million new cars a year," The Economist continues, "of which nearly 90% will be foreign brands."

Think of the consequences of so many new cars hitting the road. Add in China and India. Think of all the fuel they will have to burn. All the steel consumed. The roads yet to be paved. The storefronts and hotels and all the trappings that go with an increasingly mobile population. It's mind-boggling.

Some might mourn the passing of Russia's wild frontier. But these changes are like letting the toothpaste out of the tube. They seem irreversible. Russians, enjoying the taste of this new wild form of capitalism, would seem unlikely to shift into reverse. Strange things happen all the time, of course, but I'm betting Russia will stay in the big leagues with China, India and Brazil as an economic powerhouse."

Chris wrote:

Actually, you are correct that it's the economics that will act like a law of physics in changing consumers direction. I now have 2 geo metro's, something I never would have considered at $2.00 gas - and look forward to the Chevy Volt, and all the other cool second gen alternative cars on the drawing board.

As to water, (and electricity) I feel it should cost more after a certain amount. That way basic uses will remain affordable, but water and electricity hogs such as Al gore will be given a financial incentive to replace their missing conscience,.

Here in RI, our Governor has proposed a vast wind farm just off shore (where there is ideal wind), to generate 15% of our electricity. Once the mob finds a way to get their cut, Im sure there will be no stopping it.

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:41 AM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Cc:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: NPC: NMC: Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less - Petition

I have said for years - although no one has ever listened - that gasoline should cost more. I'll complain as much as anyone, but price will - and already has - had a major impact on the consumer's decision making. New truck and SUV sales are way off this year.

Ever ride bumper cars at the fair? Nobody gets hurt because all the "vehicles" are the same size. That's the way to make our streets and highways safer as well.

And, FWIW, here in the arid west water should be a lot more expensive as well. It is way to cheap and people make a lot of bad decisions based on cheap water.

Jim in Tucson

In a message dated 6/20/2008 9:53:40 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

    Personally, I would love to see oil stay high like  it is -- but
    not enough to break the economy -- and let the economics continue
    to spur alternatives to enough of an unstoppable degree that even
    if the competition drives oil back down (not likely with china and
    india and oil nations themselves increasing demand), we have other
    choices.

    There seems delightfully a bewildering array of alternatives RIGHT
    NOW!  solar, wind, thermal, tidal, safer nuclear, electricf cars,
    hydrauilic hybrids, better batteries, fuel cells, smart highways,
    SO MUCH!

    Why would anyone go back to singular reliance on stinky fossil
    fuels alone?

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    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert
    McElwee
    *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2008 12:36 AM
    *To:* Fred Hubert
    *Cc:* miatapower List
    *Subject:* Re: NPC: NMC: Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less - Petition

    Even though I disagree with everything Thomas said and have a huge
    problem with his leftist thinking, I don't see any reason to stop
    him from saying it. If he wants to show that he is a complete
    moron (in a NMC/NPC thread) I have no problem with it. If someone
    starts spouting political garbage in my "rear main oil seal"
    thread then they should be strung up by their testicles.

    On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Fred Hubert
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Let's keep the politics off list please.

    ~ Fred


    Thomas Smith wrote:
    > I think we need to see this issue for what it really is. Access to
    > cheaper oil will not lower gas prices, but it will increase oil
    > company profits which I think is the likely goal of the Bush
    > administration. This idea that the oil companies would pass any cost
    > reductions onto the consumer is comical.



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