Well, in the 70's when I was a teenager, there were gas lines. In the first 1973 crisis, my uncle drove us around and told us to look for the cheapest gas. It was about 42 cents. Then we had several years of afro's on white people, huge lapel's, disco, and really scarce jobs with manufacturing crumbling. Just when we started to dig out despite rampant inflation, along comes the Ayatollah, hostage crisis, and fuel shock number two. I got out of high school, was *lucky* to get job as dishwasher, and headed south for a construction hardhat job lead in a nuclear plant. While waiting for that job to materialize, I had to scrape by and my local church helped me get a job on nightshift at a huge chemical plant bagging polymer feedstock. The fence had 50 guys pulling applications from between the gate bars for 2 openings. I got one of the 2 job openings. Smell was brutal in "chemical city" and I was constantly nauseous. Within days the skin peeled off my hands and feet from 12 hour overnight shifts bagging and stacking that sticky stuff. It was BAD times. NYC had brownouts and so on, no work anywhere and even where I was - the oil patch - was only shades better, with Michigan plates everywhere as displaced auto workers flooded in. things slowly recovered over the next 2 or 3 years.
In 1990 when that was ancient history for me, we had a state banking crisis and the governor blundered into CLOSING all the CREDIT UNIONS. My employer immediately closed and barely could pay us our last check. I ended up working for free to get some training in microcomputers. Things slowly recovered over the next 2 or 3 years. But this time, the situation has some new instability as we run into hard resource limits. It will be interesting as this sorts itself out. No doubt the technology we have today will be a help. Can we make the transition without food and energy shortages crippling our economy? We'll see. _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NPC: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high! Yes, I have seen nothing yet. By no means is the current economic and political situation as bad as it has been before. Dig out the history books (not those conspiracy theory manifests) and look up the last banking crisis induced recession, or the inflationary 70's and 80's and you may think we are on some kind of very slow merry-go-round. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Cooper Sent: Wednesday, 09 July, 2008 13:58 To: Flash. Cc: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NPC: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high! This is all I am going to say.... prepare. You ain't seen nothing yet. (Have you looked at your 401K or IRA balance lately?) Back to regularly scheduled power content.... Flash. wrote: im at work. for a bank. you're paying for the electric power with your home, credit card or car loan. thanks btw, im using a laptop with a flat screen, so my imprint is fairly low in this case, atm. On 7/9/08, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Might I suggest you save energy by turning off your computer? :) I agree with McElwee's comments, it hits home when you fill the lawn mower... bet you can't find a neighborhood kid to mow your yard for $5 anymore! Wallyman Flash. < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Flash. < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/2008 01:34 PM To "< <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>" cc Subject Re: NPC: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high! i thought we were steering away from the political crap? The fact is fuel costs are not going to go down. What are you doing to reduce your reliance on energy? How many KW per day did your home consume last month? I was at 17 on the lowest day. Far too high. that's power from coal that we mine here in the US. I spend a few hundred a month on fuel from oil for my car. On 7/8/08, Robert McElwee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Today it finally sunk in. I was filling up all the gas cans for my lawnmower (something I only do once every 6-12 months). I didn't even get the 2nd one full and the pump cut off. I looked up and it had cut off because I hit $50! I looked down and saw the two cans and almost fainted. It was an eye opening moment. I hit the credit card for another $50 and left with 4 not so full cans... But hey, at least are presidential candidates are patriots, wear a flag pin, and know what a loaf of bread costs. -- Robert McElwee and Blue Flash "The 50 MPG Miata" www.lightweightmiata.com/mpg Lightweight Miata Forum: www.lightweightmiata.com/forum The Miata Trailer Project: www.lightweightmiata.com/trailer _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower -- http://BTDTRacing.com <http://btdtracing.com/> - Physics Doesn't Play Favorites. Our ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com/btdtracing-36 "Art doesn't have a finish line... it's a race against yourself." - George Carlin, He Was Here Just a Minute Ago. _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower> http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower -- http://BTDTRacing.com - Physics Doesn't Play Favorites. Our ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com/btdtracing-36 "Art doesn't have a finish line... it's a race against yourself." - George Carlin, He Was Here Just a Minute Ago. _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower> http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM
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