It is a tragedy that GM Ford and Chrysler can't compete. The unions
need to take a significant portion of the blame, as they have
prevented the American auto industry from being competitive. I agree
that its too late for the big 3 to ever return to their previous
status. I don't know about the future of this country...

Hopefully there are a few promising start ups in the alternative
energy vehicles -- Tesla, Fisker, Deka and others -- that may actually
succeed with a new mainstream product. However, the window of
opportunity is small as the Asian car manufacturers will quickly fill
the void.

KEN


On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Mark Cookson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've got a bigger spread for diesel than we have here in MN.
> Americans do seem to have a short memory, and a short term focus, which I
> think explains how we got here in the first place.  If only Wall Street
> rewarded companies that have a viable 10 year plan instead of a good 3 month
> plan, I think the world would be a very different place.
> I think at this point, it appears too late for GM, Ford, and Chrysler.  A
> (Socialist) bailout might keep them afloat for a while, but it won't fix the
> fundamental problems they have or are facing, and letting them go
> Chapter-11, while the Capitalist thing to do, is likely to leave things
> totally destroyed for years to come.  Without a large competitor that's
> willing to buy up the pieces, it seems like millions of people are just
> hosed.  They're not the kind of companies that can be "employee owned and
> operated".  I can't see Toyota, Honda, BMW, or Mercedes deciding that they
> want to buy up any part of GM, Ford, or Chrysler, and who can blame them?
> Did the unions asking for too much in the good times, and management unable
> or unwilling to plan for the long term because of Wall Street expecting
> instant growth, coupled with a credit bubble popping leave them in a
> position where they're unable to recover?
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Ken Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Todays price for Unleaded gas was $1.69. Diesel was $3.49.  (local
>> Mobile station)
>>
>> I know the diesel price is artifically inflated, but I don't
>> understand it. There is no valid reason other than "everyone else is
>> charging more".
>>
>> While I am happy that the price of gas has dropped, I am afraid that
>> Americans have a short memory. We finally got shocked into thinking
>> about fuel economy again, but that will fade out fast with the return
>> to these low prices. Perhaps this will help GM and Ford with SUV
>> sales...
>>
>> KEN
>
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