Add to the top of that list STATES RIGHTS (being greater than the
Federal Govt) and I'll buy it wholeheartedly.
One of those states rights was the right to say if they wanted to make
it legal to own slaves, but it was literally a relatively minor issue
as opposed to what all the recent PC media would have you believe.
Oh, and slavery wasn't just a southern thang. By that time the North
had "progressed" mostly to child labor (which was definitely never a
southern thang) as it was cheaper. They even went so far as to chain
the kids to their work stations so while the parents owned the kids
not the companies it couldn't technically be called slavery, but it was.
Let me go a little further and here's the reason why. Have any of you
old farts seen what is published in your kids and grandkids history
books about Viet Nam? It is so far from the truth as to be mind
boggling. And that is in the span of our life times. How'd that
happen? None of us read school history books and therefore haven't
contested it. If they can do that to something that recent what do you
think they've done to the Civil War?
According to Tocqueville in his book "Democracy in America" The
"problem of race" was worse in the non-slave owning states as the
general attitude in New England was that all blacks were "aliens" and
should be deported or "colonized" back to Africa. As a matter of fact
that was also Lincoln's view and he set up a "colony" in Liberia just
for that purpose. He met with several of the more prominent black
leaders and tried to convince them to go. By 1861 several thousand
blacks had been deported to these colonies.
Laws were passed that assured free blacks would never be granted an
semblance of real citizenship. They couldn't even own property and
vagrancy laws were passed that allowed them to be deported.
Indiana, Illinois (land of Lincoln), and Oregon amended their
constitution to prohibit the immigration of black people into the state.
An exhibition called "Slavery in New York (2005-2006 and the book it
spawned in the introduction says "For nearly 300 years slavery was an
intimate part of the lives of New Yorkers . . . For portions of the
17th & 18th centuries New York city housed the largest urban salve
population in Mainland North America . . . During those years, slaves
composed more than a quarter of the labor force in the city and
perhaps as much as one half of the workers in many of the outlying
districts."
In the book "How the North Promoted, Prolonged and Profited from
Slavery" they point out that Massechusetts not South Carolina is the
place that first legalized slavery. They say Colonial Boston was a
"bustling port for the trade of human flesh." Rhode Island was the
long the leader in the transatlantic slave trade because they
provisioned the Caribbean with foodstuffs.
And while the transatlantic slave trade was made illegal in the U.S.
in 1808 even beyond 1860 Manhattan slave yards still were building the
ships that were used to transport the slaves from Africa to the
Caribbean
I think I'll stop there and not even address the slavery issue in
effect at the time of the war, because contrary to what is fashionable
to believe today, economics and states rights were much greater issues.
Our four fathers ( I don't why they call them that cause I know there
were more than 4) set the constitution up the way they did just to
stop the kinds of excesses we are seeing today.
On Sep 24, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Jason C wrote:
Root cause of the civil war was economic. Abolition of slavery came
later and was used rhetorically. The North had wanted
protectionist tariffs against imports which would lead to
retaliatory tarrifs from foreign nations, which would severely
affect the South's economy which was export based.
Secession was an implicit option in reigning in the Federal
Governments' abuses.
Several states had threatened secession since the founding of the
Union, resulting in compromises between the States and the Feds.
Not until Lincoln did the Feds preserve the union through force.
The Framers of the Constitution meant the Federal gov't to have only
the powers enumerated in the 10th Amendment, and all else was up to
the States and the people. They were very wary of centralization of
power, because history showed that power tends to concentrate and
grow. Now the science of Psychopathy explains why.
--- On Thu, 9/24/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Just like in racing, good guys finish last
To:
Cc: "Miata Power List" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:39 PM
When you give power to any institution, the psychopaths gravitate
to it.
The only solution I see is DE-CENTRALIZATION OF POWER.
Now you are back to the root causes of the Civil War.
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