I know I should trust the jack stands... .they have been holding the thing up for almost 3 years on level concrete. I've wrestled the car from every direction on the stands. I still don't like the idea of crawling under. I've got some wheels and concrete blocks and whatnot stuffed under there as backup - not holding the car up, just keeping me from being a pancake when the stands fail. I should probably just stop being a pussy and get the job done!

RE: Grounds. Bill -since I had the entire harness out, I will go back through and double check the grounds. It's not inconceivable that I missed something there.
Thanks guys!
-Chuck


Ken Bogart wrote:
Thats how I do it. Put it up and shake it. Of course, having all 4 stands on solid level concrete surface is critical to safe use.
As a failsafe, put ramps under the tires...


Ken


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Mark Cookson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    After I put the Miata on jackstands I grab the rollbar and shake
    it for all I'm worth.  I figure if it doesn't come off at that
    point, it's not going to come off even if I'm under it with a big
    wrench or an earthquake hits (well a 5.0 or less at least).

    It's never fallen off the stands with this shaking and only once
    did it move more than I wanted it to, causing me to rearrange
    where the stands were placed.  Normally it's like trying to move a
    2000lb brick -- nothing happens.

    Mark

    On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Ken Bogart <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        You need to learn to trust your jackstands....  I have cars on
them everyday in my garage.
        Another good alternative are Rhino Ramps. However, they really
don't get the car high enough for the starter. Cinderblocks are NOT good jackstands.
        Ken Bogart

        On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Chuck
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Update:
            a little gentle persuasion with a big wrench and some MMO
            in the cylinders has done the trick.  The engine spins
            freely now.  It wasn't stuck very bad - the real problem
            seems to be the starter.  I'm assuming it's rusted in
            place, because the drive gear doesn't seem to budge when
            you hit the key.  I don't have it out of the car yet, so
            I'm going by how it sounds.  A few whacks with a hammer
            didn't make any difference.  Tonight I'll take it out and
            see what I can do with it... or replace it.
            BTW - I hate crawling under a car on jack stands... wish
            there was another way to get those $%^#$% starter bolts
            out.  My neighbor was crushed to death under his truck
            about 2 months ago, so I'm very wary of getting under
            2000# of steel.  I'm going to stack up some cinder blocks
            under the chassis "just in case", but I still hate
            crawling under there.  Anybody want to come to Indiana and
            do this for me? ;)
            -Chuck





            [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
            Okay, you had no big wrench, but you couldn't get, what,
             the CRANK pulley to turn?  How did you try to turn the
            engine by hand?  What did you do?  This is important.
In a message dated 7/10/2010 6:37:36 P.M. Eastern
            Daylight Time, [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]> writes:

                Hey guys,
                After almost 3 years off the road, I'm finally trying
                to get my 97 FM2 running again.  I took it apart to
                replace the wiring harness and ended up doing
                suspension, cooling system and brakes too.  I'm
                getting close to having it back together, and went to
                start it today... and got nothing.  I haven't done a
                lot of trouble shooting yet, and thought I'd come
                here for ideas first.
The Link boots up and I get all the dashboard
                lights.  Fuel pump runs.
                When I turn the key to start, the engine will not
                spin, the tach goes to 2500 and there's a buzzing
                under the hood that sounds like a jammed electric
                motor.  I do not hear anything like a starter
                engaging.... just the buzzing.  Then the Link screen
                goes to all black bars and appears to reboot.  The
                battery has a decent charge, and I've also tried with
                a charger hooked up for extra boost.

                So... I pulled the plugs and #3 was really rusty,
                with a rust spot on top of the piston.  I have no
                idea what leaked... but something did.  I didn't have
                my big wrench handy, but with the plugs out I could
                not get the engine to turn by hand.

                Considering the car has been in pieces for so long,
                it makes trouble shooting a little harder.  Any ideas
                on what I should be looking at first?  If the engine
is seized up, what's the best way to break it loose? I double checked the wiring harness compatibility
                when I swapped it 2 years ago, so everything should
                be good there, but I'm not certain that it's not part
                of the problem.
                thanks!
                -Chuck


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