Nobody in EU ever used top loader: 1965 Candy from Italy front loader lasted 30 years for my parents w/o service ever
Only USA uses top loaders So whatever stats say, it's not the whole story Buy Miele Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:17 PM, David Bennett <[email protected]> wrote: > Do a Google search and you'll never buy a front loader. They have serious > design flaws. > > I have had intimate contact with 5 different brands of front loaders and now > have a GE brand High Efficiency top loader which I love and has none of the > flaws of the front loader. It uses the same amount of water that a front > loader does but without all the problems and is much quieter - an added plus > is that the wash cycles take a lot less time than a front loader. > > Where do I begin? > > Let's start with the balance issue you spoke of. The front loaders are > inherently off balance from the beginning. How they "overcome" that is by > starting and stopping to redistribute the load because all the clothes want > to fall to the bottom. This adds significantly to the time it takes to do a > load of clothes. So if you have kids or other reasons you need to wash lots > of clothes you'll get fewer done in a day. Not to mention the capacity is > smaller with the Front Loaders. > > But you say dryers are front loaders so why would the washer be off balance > and the dryer not? The dryers are tumbling the clothes whereas the washer > has to spin at a much higher speed to force the water out of the clothes. > > When they get off balance, which is many times on each load they make lots of > noise and they tend to walk across the room more easily than a top loader > because they are taller. Don't even think of adding one of those under > washer storage drawers to make the washer be at a better height to loading > and unloading because that aggravates the walking situation. > > Maintenance is greater on a front loader. You MUST clean the seal inside the > front door that goes around the door often and very well. You must also > regularly run empty loads that are high in bleach quite often. You also need > to run empty loads about once a week with an expensive cleaner called > Affresh. Why do you have to do all these things? It's because the front > loader doesn't use enough water to wash down the drum well enough to get rid > of all the detergent film. So what? > > Your front loader has a totally different type of door on it than did your > top loader. The front loader door must seal so that water doesn't run out > when it's working. Did you ever build a terrarium when you were a kid? Once > you closed it up you ended up with condensation inside your terrarium and > many times strange things began to grow in there. The same thing happens in > your washer. > > The detergent film that doesn't get washed out of the drum is food for > strange mildews and other beasties so you must leave the washer door open all > the time and do all the cleaning rituals I mentioned before to try to stay > ahead of the mold and mildew smells. You can try, but you'll never make it. > Your clothes will begin to smell musty and people around you will begin to > ask "What's that smell?" everytime you come near there. > > Towels and other heavy cloth items seem to accumulate the smell the most. > > How big is your laundry room? Will it even accomodate an open front loader > washer having the door open all the time? > > The only people I've ever seen that like their front loaders are ones that > wash very few loads of clothes. I haven't seen one over here, but in Europe > they have an all in one machine that washes and then dries. The heater > element takes care of the mold and mildew issues so they work better, but you > can't be washing another load while you are drying one. > > > > On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Ken Bogart wrote: > >> Last washer I bought was about 3 years ago to replace a 20 year old top >> loader that was service free. I found a top load GE with huge capacity for >> about $350. >> >> The front loaders cost three times as much, and have less capacity. But >> they do also use less water... I figured the payback on the water savings >> was about 15 years. >> >> Will washing clothes in a fancy, designer colored, overpriced, potentially >> unreliable front load washer make you happy? Why spend a ton of money for >> something that is hidden away? Keep the upfront savings and buy a Miata >> accessory instead. >> >> >> Ken Bogart >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> 96 Montego Blue FFS Coldside (His) >> 97 Black & Tan (Hers) >> 90 Crystal White (sons) >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.miatacare.com >> http://www.cincimiata.com >> http://www.bcchallenger.org >> MiataMail.com list owner >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> This is a personal consumer/user question regarding front loading clothes >> washing machines. >> >> I know many testing organizations compile lists of Best Buys based on >> features and the results of short term, limited testing, but the reports of >> those LIVING with and USING a machine provide a lot of very useful data for >> the propsective purchaser. >> >> Has anyone had ANY brand of front load washing machine (and dryer, for that >> matter) that has been, for a year or more, Pain Free (no repairs, no balance >> problems, no problems getting clothes clean, no control malfunctions), and >> the machine hasn't had problems that could not readily be resolved under >> warranty, or by owner or technician provided service if out of warranty? >> Has anyone had a recent acquisition (say, less than 3 years) NOT cost them a >> large sum of money in repair or parts costs? >> >> I have a 17 year old top load Maytag that could now use a number of >> replacement parts (things do wear out over time and with heavy use), so I'm >> considering a new "better" washing machine (although some needed parts are >> still available through ApplianceClinic.com, a good source). From what I've >> read while researching washers on the web, NONE of the new models from ANY >> manufacturer seem to last more than a few weeks before something goes wrong. >> Seriously! If you go to ConsumerAffairs.com and search on any brand >> washer, you'll be confronted with so many horror stories that you may NEVER >> feel confident about spending cash on a new machine. There are nearly as >> many horror stories about warranty and service repairs, as well. >> >> Therefore, I'd like to know if there is anything really positive to be said >> by consumers about modern clothes washing machines in regard to durability >> and / or the manufacturer's acceptance of responsibility to the consumers. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jerry aka LGO >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Miatapower mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Miatapower mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > > _______________________________________________ > Miatapower mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower
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