I have both, but the Data Link Lab expired. I used it for another issue and then didn't purchase. I have since purchased it but have not received my key code yet.
RPM changes on the keypad as well as INJ. I have +12 and ground at the MAP box with the key on. I have also tried it with the F/P to GND in the Diagnostic connector which keeps the pump on and I get the same symptoms. I just swapped out the connector at the CAS because one of the wires looked iffy, but no change. Eric On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you have a keypad or datalogger? If so, do all of the sensor > readings look normal at key-on before cranking? Do RPM and MAP values > change as expected and do the injector pulse width & ign advance look > normal during the brief run that you do get? Do you have gnd and +12v > power at the MAP box when the key is on? > > Since the engine fires briefly but doesn’t continue to run even with the > fuel pump jumpered to stay on, I’d guess that the plugs are firing, and the > initial start is fueled by prime fuel but the ECU thinks that there is high > manifold vacuum or high coolant temp and isn’t supplying enough fuel to > continue running ... or maybe the fuel map in the ECU got hosed somehow. > The FP shutting off when the starter isn’t running says that something is > wrong with the MAP box or connections to it. Normally the ECU turns that > transistor on in the map box to keep the FP relay energized as soon as it > senses RPM > 60. > *From:* Eric McCord <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2012 11:39 AM > *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: '91 fires, won't stay on... > > Swapped out both the ignition switch and CAS. No change. I have only > used the Link. I also swapped out the fuel pump before purchasing a fuel > pressure guage. I am getting 40 psi at the rail at all times with the key > on. It is not looking like it is fuel related. > > Eric > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:35 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > >> A long shot here, but it may be that the ignition switch is faulty, >> allowing to to start the car and then losing electrical contact, or perhaps >> the current from the ignition to the CAS has been interrupted. WAIT! You >> are using the Link now, but did you EVER use another method of engine >> management? Did you use an MSD? I recall long ago having a problem >> develop after I upgraded from the Bell Sys II to full FM II spec with link, >> and it turned out that old wiring for the MSD unit had developed a short >> (or some problem... was years ago!) >> >> LGO >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eric McCord <[email protected]> >> To: Mark Phillips <[email protected]> >> Cc: miatapower <[email protected]> >> Sent: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 11:54 am >> Subject: Re: '91 fires, won't stay on... >> >> No luck. I just replaced that transistor and it is still doing the same >> thing. >> >> Eric >> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Eric McCord <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I am off to the Shack. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Mark Phillips < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/13/2012 10:28 AM, Eric McCord wrote: >>>> >>>> on yours it was T2? Did you just replace the transistor to get it back >>>> up and running? >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Mark Phillips < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The relay has 12 volts applied to one side of the coil with the >>>>> ignition on. When you jump F/P to GND you are taking the other side of the >>>>> relay coil straight to ground bypassing the transistor. Normally the >>>>> transistor performs this grounding function (sinking current). T2 also >>>>> interacts with other circuity in the MAF box. >>>>> >>>>> This happened to me about 4-5 years ago on my '92. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 07/13/2012 10:00 AM, Eric McCord wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When I jump out the F/P to GND the pump stays on but I still have the >>>>> same symptoms. If that transistor drives the relay but I jump it out >>>>> should >>>>> that not run? >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Mark Phillips < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>> >>>>>> I sent this out earlier but didn't see it repost. I apologize if its >>>>>> a repeat. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a transistor in the Link box that replaces the AFM; it >>>>>> drives the fuel pump relay. It is an NPN transistor, is marked "T2" and >>>>>> may >>>>>> have failed. About $1.50 and a soldering iron to replace. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Phillips >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 07/13/2012 09:40 AM, Eric McCord wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I just swapped out the CAS and same symptoms. If it's a bad MAF box >>>>>> where can I get one of those? Since my Baja went down the Miata has been >>>>>> my >>>>>> only transportation and Kaitlyn and I are leaving in a week and a half >>>>>> for >>>>>> the dragon and our road trip. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Can also be that one of the two signals from the CAS is not there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Eric McCord <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:21 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Cc:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: '91 fires, won't stay on... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just checked that connector. It looked fine, I reseated it and >>>>>>> still have the same symptoms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:07 PM, [email protected] < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you checked the manifold pressure connection (heck! I think >>>>>>>> that's what its called - I can't remember!) ? If it comes loose, it >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> begin to fire and then die. 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