>Received:    3/26/05 6:56 PM
>From:        Duane A. De Vries, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To:    Michigan Mac User List, [email protected]
>To:          Michigan Mac User List, [email protected]
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>I have one of the original beige G3s (no extra memory or anything). I 
>don't use it much and I was curious if it would be possible to install 
>some variant of Unix on it. I don't know anything about Unix or linux etc. 
>and would be interested in just learning about it. Would my ancient G3 
>even run Linux or something?
>Duane (in Wyoming)

Duane;

Yellow Dog

I began an attempt to install YDL 3.0 on a beige g3 a year ago.
Finally gave up because I couldn't figure it out.  In January I
took an 333 mhz iMac and spent about a week getting YDL up and
running and making a basic bit of (newbie level) sense.

If you're going to install YDL 3 on a beige (I'm almost sure that
it will work) be prepared for some frustration.

I later found out that my problem installing was probably related
to trying to install it on an external (or an internal ATA) drive
I think it was.  If you use an internal drive I suggest it be the
ONLY internal drive and it needs the Linux to be on the first part
of the drive as the first partition.

I found the iMac MUCH less grief and headache.

The insane time consumation of the beige attempt was totally out
of hand.  Having said that, perhaps one of these days I'll try
it again with a bit different approach when I finally retire the
ol beige G3.

Give yourself plenty of 'learning curve' time before you even think
of doing anything useful with it if you've never used it before.

FWIW, you can take the YDL software and 'switch' it around to be
mostly 'Macish' or go back the other way to being more "Windowzey".
Mac OS 9 has one single 'Platinum' appearance while the choices for
the YDL look are um... shall we say totally incomparable in variety.

Ubuntu

Ubuntu is a newer flavour out there.  They sent me some free install
CD's that I have yet to get on to see how it will work.  The Ubuntu
web site MAY still be offering the free ones.  I can find a link if
you need.  I ordered 3 copies and they happily sent them all out in
about 4-6 weeks I think it was.

MK Linux

I looked into MK Linux 2.3 and found the responsiveness and general
cooperation level of those people to be too poor to even take it
seriously.  The CD's are still laying there unused where they'll
probably stay till I get tired of looking at them or feel like
punishing myself by messing with it.

* * *

The thing I like about (any) Linux is they have all kinds of free
software available right on the install CD's.  The independent
community of Linux people make the software 'because they can'.
That is a totally different motivation than the Corperate "Lets
make a buck" driving force.  I see Linux 'staying put'.  I see
Apple changing the structure of their OS every 5 years or so.
The Linux community seems to prefer relentless slow evolution
instead of trying to reinvent the wheel every 5 years.

I have noticed that the Linux movement seems to be relentlessly
gaining momentum these days... perhaps partly connected with
Apple's move towards Linux.

I'm entertaining moving away from the Mac platform over the next
few years in favor of a pure Linux setup but I'll let the software
on both sides keep talking to me.

Don

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