On 12/2/05, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Enclosures have a different meaning. They are best compared to > > attachments in e-mail. The enclosure is a part of the current > > document and document+enclosure(s) should be seen as a whole. This > > has great value when talking about blog posts (and hAtom) because > > attachments are usually connected to a part of the page (a single > > blog entry). > > > > I don't care where I point my profiles to, but rel-enclosure isn't > > what I mean when I use rel="enclosure". > > I don't think your relEnclosure and http://microformats.org/wiki/rel- > enclosure are that different, they're just explained differently. > Also, I think they're close enough to be resolved. You want to work > on that?
Perhaps rel-enclosure doesn't actually make sense long term. Given that relEnclosure, AFAIK, was grafted onto RSS to allow for media being "attached" to feeds, rel-enclosure doesn't make sense in your regular browser-consumed webpages because we've got <embed> and <object>. If RSS had been able to support inline rich media, wouldn't those tags have sufficed? It also seems that relEnclosure was about behavior on the client side and less about semantics. Let's presume for a minute that we've got infinite bandwidth and infinite storage. In such a world, all embedded media (and hrefs) would be able to be pulled in and cached automagically. In which case the need for delayed media downloading would be much less, so even if you're syncing your 8,000 feeds, which all contain rich media like podcasts and vcasts, you would theoretically be able to pull all that data down anyway for later consumption. So the question is, what is the most effective way to link to that media? Indeed, will the media itself supplant the textual content of the feed? Will feeds simply become the distribution method for rich media or eventually get into a TV-for-the-web model where you pick people to subscribe to and can "tune in" to an aggregate stream of them whenever you like? I dunno, and I suppose I'm getting a little off topic here. So here's what I'm thinking when it comes down to it (now that you know what I'm looking at in the future)... Shouldn't relEnclosures just be converted to <object> or <embed> tags when they're pulled into xhtml? Isn't that what the original intention (and indeed, behavior) actually implies? Wasn't the original problem one of embedding rich media in RSS and so therefore, relEnclosure is actually made obsolete when ported to the world of XHTML microformats? Anyway, sorry to go on and on, must be the Parisien air. ;) Chris _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
