Hello, On 1/1/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...] > 5. Media Info. Formerly known as media-metadata. > > Side-note rant: One thing we should all resolve to do in the new year is to > strike the word "metadata" from our discussions as much as possible. It is > a theory/abstraction-focused word and thus frames discussions and designs > very poorly. Instead, let's base our discussions and designs on what users > are actually used to, and a focus on and user centered design. You don't > see menu items that say "Get Metadata", you see menu items that say "Info" > or "Get Info" or "Properties...". Data is data. What matters is whether > the user cares about the information, not whether the data is meta or not. > > Back to media info. It seems that nearly every smart person (and especially > domain expert) that attempts to solve problems in the space of media info > ends up falling into the traps of complexity and over-design. Just look at > the current background research. Media info on web pages is sorely in need > of a SIMPLE microformat which describes the 80/20 of information about a > particular piece of media and nothing more in v1. > > This is perhaps the most challenging of the above 5 new microformat efforts, > and truly requires a serious breakthrough in how we think about media from > the *user* perspective, rather than a programmer's perspective. > > One hypothesis: we need actual users of media who are somewhat technically > savvy, rather than media info domain experts (who seem to have a 100% track > record of falling into the aforementioned complexity and over-design traps), > to help brainstorm and model what people *really* publish about media on the > Web. Will that be possible? > > I want to see this happen. I'm not a media info domain expert. If I have > to, I'll jump in myself and be draconian about the simplification. I'm > hoping that at least a few of the experts out there are tired of the > complexity and over-design of previous/existing attempts (including perhaps > the attempts by their own companies), and would at least entertain and try > simpler approaches. In the interest of a fresh look focused first on > simplicity and minimalism, here is a start: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples So does that mean I should be un-merging the stuff I was merging in there before? See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___________________________________________________________________________ Never forget where you came from _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
