On Feb 9, 2006, at 4:55 PM, Ryan King wrote:

On Feb 9, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:

        <meta name="microformats" content="tag hAtom xFolk" />

Ironically, this is exactly the sort of thing microformats are against
using-

But it's not a microformat; it's metadata.

Around here, hidden metadata == bad.

I think that needs some qualification. Principles should organize, not replace, thought. XHTML is hidden metadata. If all hidden metadata == bad, then we should send XHTML as text/plain, so humans can read the XHTML metadata before telling their machines to parse it. Short of that, we should put notes in our XHTML telling people that there are CSS and JavaScript documents attached, so they can make use of that important metadata.

I realize that it's still common practice to mention feeds in XHTML, but I stopped doing this as soon as browsers (machines) started recognizing feeds. I trust a machine to tell a human what it can read more than I trust myself to predict what a random human's machine will do with a given file (e.g. dump it to the screen and completely confuse them). I see a PR benefit in promoting "This page contains microformat X" announcements, but I don't see how this would help humans at all. They can already see the content. If their client can extract the machine-readable version of that content, their client will know it can do that, and their client can tell them this. If their client can't extract the machine-readable version of the that content, how does it help humans to tell them it's there?

Peace,
Scott
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