I agree that the use of hAtom + citation, or even Atom + citation
(hCite?) would be a good method to syndicate citation formats. The
discussion of citations has been kicking up and then dying a number
of times, and I take some of the blame as one of the people who'd
like to push the format along not taking enough initiative.
I think the most difficult part of the hCite discussion is framing
our 80/20. Most bloggers and less formal writers only define
references to other web sites as a single link, without much in the
was of data to be marked up by a Microformat, where as academics seem
to be looking for a locator and authenticity-validator not unlike MLA
or Chicago, while librarians and others have been talking about
including even more data in order to form a complete (pardon the
jargon pun) framework for resource description.
I think the problem that hCite would be trying to solve, however,
would be the current inability to create a reference (hyper- or not)
to another work in a way that comports validity information to the
reader *without viewing the work*. hCite would be an attempt to
standardize that process and therefore allow both people and tools to
better understand the information.
--
Ryan Cannon
Interactive Developer
MSI Student, School of Information
University of Michigan
http://RyanCannon.com/
On 11 Feb 2006, at 3:00 PM, microformats-discuss-
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:25:48 -0800
From: Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uf-discuss] one citation microformat use case
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Hi, I just found the recent conversations about a citation
microformat, and
saw that the discussion slowed down around the same time someone
asked about
what problem we're solving. I'd like to add my two cents:
I have a particular use case in mind: I would like to have my
publications
list on my home page have enough detail to reconstruct at least a
BibTeX
entry from it, and ideally something richer. I'd also really like
to be sure
that there's an element that's a link to a hard-copy of the
referenced item
for download, if available.
Given such a microformat, I'd add support to BibDesk to generate it
from
BibTeX (and our upcoming database format), and support to add items
from a
web page directly to a database in BibDesk. I would also like to be
able to
subscribe to a page with data in this format, so I'd know when new
publications were added.
So, I'd like to hear opinions (since I'm new to the idea of
microformats) on
how to support subscriptions with the citation format, and whether
or not
it'd be best done by also using hAtom.
I've been wanting to add this kind of support to BibDesk for years,
and the
number of citation metadata formats has made it difficult to decide
on a
good path to take.
Thanks,
-mike
--
Michael McCracken
UCSD CSE PhD Candidate
research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/
misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/blog/
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