On 2/20/06 8:43 AM, "Craig Donato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If anyone is interested in discussing hListing, I wanted to propose a get > together this Wednesday night at 6pm in San Mateo at Oodle's office. > Apologies for the late notice. > > No need to RSVP but would love a heads up if you think you're coming so I > can buy enough pizza. Oodle's address is 2929 Campus Drive #400, San > Mateo, CA 94403 (we sublet from Greylock). Directions can be found at > http://www.greylock.com/contact/directions_ba.cfm Thanks to Craig and Oodle for hosting an excellent multi-hour discussion session on hListing. We have folks from Oodle, Edgeio, Technorati, CommerceNet, and independent developer Assaf Arkin all participated in a heated but productive discussion. Here are some collaboratively taken (props to SubethaEdit) rough notes: hListing meeting notes Attendees Tantek Çelik - Technorati Ryan King - Technorati Craig - Oodle, cofounder Matt - Edgeio Donald - Oodle, feeds person Vidar - Edgeio Scott - Oodle, cofounder Zuzana - Oodle Assaf Arkin - uPress plugin author Faith - Oodle Rohit - CommerceNet Initially the hListing authors tried repurposing hReview, but found that differences were enough to require a different format. The other extreme would have been to make "everything a tag." Instead, a compromise was made. 'Item type' may be sub-optimal in hReview and hlisting. In hReview, the item type is very coarse, but there are some restrictions depending on what the type is. What do currently listings providers do for item type? Taxonomies? * craigslist - very loose * ebay - tighter * newspapers - simple (can't do it over the phone) Any consideration to a unique ID for a listing? permalink. item type: business -> hCard item info person -> hCard item info event -> hCalendar event item info other (default) - catchall product - catchall service - catchall opening ? -> hCard for organization x housing ? - adr/geo x place ? - adr/geo x website ? - url x url ? - url (x) means perhaps we should eliminate it. if you sell etc. something, you republish with dtexpired = current datetime. parsers should respect <del datetime="" >...</del> markup location should be part of item info? yes delete separate location field and instead, extend item info item info (fn || url || photo || adr || geo) can we get away with not having the item type at all? possible approaches: 1. use tags or other microformats to define the item. no item type. allow hCard and hCalendar event on the item type. encourage folks to use tags for item type/category. +1 Tantek 2. only list things that have microformats. (person, business, event, other) 3. start with a set of classifieds as explicit item type values +1 Zuzana, as long as it was open ended +1 Rohit, marketing value of ? 4. totally free form item type - same as just a tag? review vs. listing items that are reviewed often have urls whereas items that are listed often do not? listings tend to be "inventories of one" Vidar: edgio is more interested in "how do we interpret this?", rather than specifying user/publisher behavior/requirements why are listing type/action required? why can't those be tags? ([offer] | wanted ) transaction: sell | rent | trade | meet | announce | service if hListing becomes well used, it will become impossible to do maintenance? should we add an optional definition list for key/value pairs? proposed: collapse listing type, listing action, item type into tags. converge them to "listing type" (or listing tags) and make a recommended set of keywords +1 Craig +1 Rohit Thanks, Tantek _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
