This is an interesting idea. Here are the key elements to Russell Beattie's proposal (I think) as it relates to hAtom:

> I have to say I’m getting more and more convinced that this is the
> direction that the mobile web is going to go. No recoding markup, no
> “separate and always unequal” access to content, etc. Just include a
> different style sheet on your server and you can re-arrange your
> web-standard markup as you see fit.

So what's being said is _make your websites so they can be restyled using CSS to make a mobile friendly presentation_. And...

> But it’s still the same underlying markup. And this works for the
> whole portal like this, so for example if you sign up for a blog, you
> also get a mobile readable/usable blog as well. That’s pretty awesome.

So they're producing weblogs also. The two points uses for for hAtom are

(1)
hAtom provides a regular and consistent way to mark up your weblog content, not just for semantic reasons but also for presentation ones.

Since they're proposing that web pages should be produced in a way that allows CSS restyling -- a non-trivial task -- having a standard way to mark up well known content means it will be easier for web designers to produce these stylesheets.

So since web designers often work on blog presentation, having hAtom as the way to mark up weblog content to do all this is the way to go. A win/win for everyone.

Note that we're not proposing a panacea here, just a partial solution to one frequently faced problem.

(2)
They're producing blogs, so they should use hAtom anyway!

Regards, etc...
David
http://www.blogmatrix.com

Chris Messina wrote:
Perhaps Danny can shed some light on his proposal?

On 3/27/06, Chris Casciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

On 3/27/06, Chris Casciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I guess I'm not clear where microformats (including hAtom or not)
would
serve to solve the handheld 'problem'.
I'm not clear either, except that, like CSS Zen Garden, having one set
of CSS classes to design for means that I could concoct one stylesheet
that could be used as the handheld stylesheet for thousands of blogs
instead of just one blog that chooses its own CSS classes.

In that way, we could actually iterate on design knowing that there's
some consistency in CSS classes.

Chris
But what about everything else on the page -- from navigation to
branding to any non-atom-like content? Or pages with multiple hatom
feeds? Or the wide variety of "stuff" that could be entry content --
from images, photos or screenshots to lengthy articles -- that would
presumably go un-specified in an hatom-garden type setting.

I guess I don't see how the others participating think the pages would
be consumed, and the win I see from hAtom (the ability to subscribe to
elements on any page of a site without shipping mulutple versions of a
document) isn't at all related to the handheld space.


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