On 28 Mar 2006, at 17:27, Michael McCracken wrote:

Hi, so since we've got a large number of examples on the examples
page, I think it's time to float an initial version of a citation
microformat.

I've put a suggestion up on the wiki at
http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming - I don't claim
that it's complete - help fill it in, but keep in mind that we should
start out simple. I think I've captured nearly enough to satisfy the
80/20 rule based on the examples we've got, and I think a majority of
BibDesk users would be delighted with 50/50!

I tried hard to think of it as a microformat first and resist the
temptation to include everything I've seen in other bibliographic data
formats. I think there's a real danger here of making it complicated
enough that it's hard to adopt, possibly more so than with other
microformats.

I also don't claim to be any good at designing microformats - I just
really want to see one, and a bad strawman has to be better than
nothing at all. I'm eager to hear where I diverged from the design
patterns, exhibited ignorance, or any other criticism.

Thanks for setting that up Mike, I'd like to see something finalised too. I think the main difficulty is defining the aims and uses for a citation microformat (and I agree with Ross that linking is probably the most important). Is the aim to be able to convert losslessly between a full citation format like MODS and microformatted XHTML, or does there just need to be enough information to identify the item?

Either way, here's the kind of thing I had in mind, just for a comparison to your straw man...

<div class="bibliography">
    <ol class="reference-list">
        <li class="citation reference book">
                <span class="title">Title of the Article</span>.
                <span class="creator name">Doe J</span> and
                <span class="creator name">Bloggs F</span>.
                <span class="container"> In
                        <a class="uri" href="urn:isbn:45346327"/>
                        <span class="title">Title of the Book</span>
                        (<span class="year">1988</span>);
                        <span class="editors">
                                <span class="editor">John Green</span> and
                                <span class="editor">Simon Brown</span> (Eds);
                        </span>
                        <span class="publisher">
                                <span class="name">ABC Books</span>,
                                <span class="location">New York</span>.
                        </span>
                </span>. pp
                <span class="pages">
                        <span class="start">33</span>-
                        <span class="end">56</span>.
                </span>
        </li>
    </ol>
</div>

I guess there are some things in there that could become vcards, if you wanted.

alf.
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