Hi Joe,

Gotcha... sorry for the intrusion... didn't want to stir things up..

No worries. After all, most of are here *in order* to stir things up. :-)

it certainly is a big challenge.  A gentleman on SB recommended
Microcontent Description (MCD) as a starting point.  Ernie, if you're
up for it, I'd be interested in getting something going.  I think this
list is the place to do it but I certainly respect Tantak's desire to
avoid the quagmire!

Understood.

Maybe a sub-list of some sort that Ernie and I moderate?  Best,  Joe

Not a bad idea at all.

Tantek, I realize you may think this a complete waste of time, but would you be willing to at least quarantine us lunatics in our own "microformats-schema" mailing list? If nothing else, it provides a safety valve to prevent the issue from cropping up here periodically. And who knows? Every 65 million years or so, something *does* manage to boil the ocean. :-)

-- Ernie P.

On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Joe Reger, Jr. wrote:


On 3/30/06, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Joe,

Is this format-of-formats already done?  If so, I apologize, can you
point me to it? If not, what has been done and would it be premature
for me to start work on such a draft specification (after much
feedback from everybody here, of course)?

This is actually an FAQ, and a fairly tricky one at that, since it is
isomorphic to the problem of a "general purpose parser."  I believe
Tantek has declared that discussion off-topic for this list, since it
has the potential to be a never-ending rathole.  However, I can't
find such a statement on the FAQ:

http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Basic_Microformat_Questions

Tantek, is that in fact the policy, and is it documented somewhere?

That said, there are a few of us crazy enough to want to try, which
I'm open to doing off-list if you're interested...

-- Ernie P.


On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Joe Reger, Jr. wrote:

Hi All!

I've been lurking for a while and truly appreciate all of the great
work going into microformats right now!

I saw a message on the Structured Blogging mailing list that got me
thinking about a format-of-formats... a standard way to describe a
format.  My thoughts are here:

http://www.joereger.com/entry-logid7-eventid5003-Structured-
Blogging-FormatofFormats.log

As I posted, I realized that I haven't checked in with Tantek and
others regarding the concept of a format-of-formats. I've seen a lot of Atom/RDF used. I was a proponent of XML Schema a while back. I've
been dabbling with Xforms.  XUL is out there.

My basic position is that we should be able to provide a common format
for the description of a microformat.  By creating a standard to
describe the formats we free toolmakers to create an implementation
and then be done with it.  Once we have support from WordPress, MT,
Drupal, LJ, etc then we can spawn microformats more quickly, requiring
little or no development on the toolmaker part.  Toolmakers will
compete by providing advanced features in their implementation (like
CSS override hooks, see blog post).  Aggregators like
Technorati/PubSub will be able to build advanced functionality on top
of specific formats and will compete at that level.  For example,
Technorati may create Technorati Music while PubSub may create PubSub
Movies... their investment differentiates and end-users win.

Is this format-of-formats already done?  If so, I apologize, can you
point me to it? If not, what has been done and would it be premature
for me to start work on such a draft specification (after much
feedback from everybody here, of course)?

Thanks for getting me up to speed!  Keep up the great work!

Best,

Joe Reger
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