On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

On 6/26/06 9:39 AM, "Chris Casciano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

That doesn't seem particularly intelligent... or easy to understand for
authors...

Huh? Not sure how to make it any simpler than "first wins". That's pretty
easy to remember.


why should wone of these be correct and the other incorrect
/ impossible to write?

Summary: Technorati is a great company
Description+Item: *Technorati* has been doing great things lately
helped by great people like *Ryan King*.

vs.

Summary: Technorati is a great company
Description+Item: *Ryan* and *Tantek* are among the many people
making *Technorati* into a great company.

The real answer is, make it explicit with <span class="item vcard"> rather
than doing the sloppy thing of putting "item" on the same element as
"description".

That's unambiguous, and also easy to remember.

I realize there are arrangements of markup that remove this ambiguity, but in my situation I'm looking for a markup template that I can handle inside the constraints of the the txp tag system and the use of description item allowed for that on the coding end (with the obvious authoring gotchas that I'm not sure can be conveyed to blog authors using my plugin).

As it is the markup I used here to nest microformats and descriptions and deal with the case where the item *isn't* a microformat has resulted in some fairly kludgy tag usage. There is real danger in this case of the resulting output not being any easier to understand and manipulate then straight XHTML. The alternatives (short of totally rewriting txp's "tag builder", tightly restricting what data is allowed to describe an "item", or going the "structured blogging" plugin direction and not allowing reviews to be part of posts, but have their own UI completely) aren't prettier IMO.

Its part a textpattern specific (or more importantly my code specific) issue, but its also a general concern when it comes to how to build intelligent microformat editors where something fairly typical arises like the following...

hReview contains
        reviewer hCard
        event hCalendar contains location hCard

And have that same UI and storage mechanism also allow for an hreview of a web page with nothing but a url..



*wonders how far all this flattery will get him*

Heh.  Your well written code has gotten you much farther. ;)

Tantek

you haven't seen....

;)

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