Hey Jim, After much prodding from Tantek and some from Ryan as well I finally got to adding some of my own related work to the wiki. I've used a simple format (based on XFN) to describe group membership and roles. Using the "<a rel" pattern to describe roles like:
<a rel="group" href="http://microformats.org/";>Microformats</a> Or <a rel="member" href="http://hellonline.com/";>Eran Globen</a> Additional values I've used are moderator and founder to describe those roles in a group. You can see the draft profile I wrote for this at http://hellonline.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/XMF And of course, it's all linked from the wiki at: http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming#Rel_Group_Member_Proposal Eran. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim > Dalton > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:34 AM > To: 'Chris Messina'; [email protected] > Subject: [uf-discuss] RE: microformats for groups and group > memberships? > > Very helpful, exactly what I was looking for, and it's a very useful > start. > > Would it make sense for the main page of the wiki to link to this page > under the Exploratory Discussions section? I'll happy add the link > myself, unless there is a policy in place of not linking to certain > exploratory discussions from the main page... > > > Sincerely, > > Jim Dalton > Production Director > ERE Media, Inc. > 580 Broadway > Suite 304 > New York, NY 10012 > > Phone: (212) 671-1181, ext. 802 > Mobile: (917) 226-5631 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ere.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Messina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Microformats Discuss > Subject: Re: microformats for groups and group memberships? > > Hi Jim, > > You should take a look at some of the list's "prior art": > > http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006- > February/0031 > 81.html > > http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming > > Chris > > On 8/10/06, Jim Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm fairly new to this list, so forgive me if this topic has been > discussed > > before or if the information is available on the wiki (did my best to > search > > both and came up with a blank). I'm probably not as technically savvy > > as many of you either, so my apologies in advance for inadvertently > butchering > > terms or concepts. > > > > I'm interested in how microformats are being (or could be) used to > > define both memberships of individuals to a group, organization, > > company, > personal > > network etc., as well as defining a member's "role" within that > > group/organization. > > > > The hcard format gives us the ability to define an entity as an > > organization. The XFN specification defines relationships between > > individuals. Nothing in these microformats (or currently proposed > > microformats) seems, however, to allow one to describe a list of > > members > in > > an organization as well as the members' roles within it. > > > > I'm curious if there is information or discussion that have already > > taken place, or if this is an idea for the group to consider? > > > > Thinking about it for a minute, I would see implications for: > > > > * Groups in social networks - Defining a list of members in a group, > > as > well > > as each individual's role within the group (e.g. leader, > > administrator, member, etc.). > > > > * Personal networks in social networks? Defining a list of members in > > an individual's personal network, along with each indivdual's "role" > (i.e. > > relationship via XFN?) in the network. > > > > * Employees of an organization - An employee directory, for example, > > indicating job title (i.e. function/role) in the organization. > > > > * Membership in real world groups - e.g. churches, schools, community > > organizations etc., along with roles (e.g. > > principal/administrator/teacher/student). > > > > * Other possible uses: groups of contacts in a contact database? > > client lists? etc.? > > > > There would seem to be many examples in the wild where groups and > > group membership are presented. > > > > My ability to think through actual hypothetical structures is > probably > more > > limited than others on this list, though the first concept my mind > > fixes > is > > on is the "feed" structure, where a parent feed has child entries. > The > above > > concepts seemingly fits such a parent/child concept. > > > > That's about where I run out of steam, and am mostly curious about > > what others think rather than continuing to babble. Thanks for any > > thoughts and/or assistance from the group. > > > > [FYI, the thinking I'm doing on this particular topic is in advance > of > some > > reworking my company is doing on its existing niche social networking > > service. I'm pushing for greater structure (and use of microformats) > > on > our > > content and entities. The above "groups/memberships" concept is the > > one > area > > that I have yet to find a place where an existing or proposed > > microformat > is > > relevant.] > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jim Dalton > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > microformats-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > > > > > -- > Chris Messina > Agent Provocateur, Citizen Agency & > Open Source Ambassador-at-Large > Work: http://citizenagency.com > Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog > Cell: 412 225-1051 > Skype: factoryjoe > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > > > _______________________________________________ > microformats-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
