I was using class="tagcloud" on the containing <ul>.
I also was using class="tag" on each tag link, since rel="tag" is not appropriate. I've never written a parser, but I would think that those two pieces would give you enough context and nuclei to extrapolate a popularity index... Lastly, I would recommend the formulation of class-tag, as a corrolary to rel-tag. As David revealed, it's not exactly clear when to use rel-tag -- it seems that, just like hcard, you might use it *everywhere* you find a tag, instead of in places where the tag applies to local content. This is, I think, due to the lack of clarity on what "rel" is to be used for (a matter of education, but a misuse that could spread widely if we're not careful). Therefore, in cases where you have tags but are merely data and do not actually describe the local content, class=tag seems to be a proper way to describe the data as a tag without the secondary function of describing the local content. Furthermore, I was thinking that we need a way to markup tag lists in general, and as a first order, like the list of tags on someone's delicious page, that are not visualized as a tagcloud. This technique should be the "parent" of the tagcloud, which, in my estimation, leads me back to: Taglist: <ul class="xoxo"><li><a href="tag/foo" class="tag">foo</a></li><li><a href="tag/bar" class="tag">bar</a></li></ul> Tagcloud: <ul class="xoxo tagcloud"><li><big><a href="tag/foo" class="tag">foo</a></big></li><li><big><big><strong><a href="tag/bar" class="tag">bar</a></strong></big></big></li></ul> Or something along those lines. I don't actually mind John's vvvv-popular proposal, but again, for accessibility's sake, you lose the graph-like quality of the nature of tagclouds. Chris On 9/23/06, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm still not seeing how we could easily extract the data at all... we have to detect all these different class names (or numbers of <big> tags) and translate that to numeric data? Seems not too intuitive... On 9/22/06, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frances and Chris, > > > On 9/22/06, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> True -- but as we're in the proposal stage, it's not too bad... > >> however, we do need a tagcloud-brainstorming page on the wiki with > >> all > >> of John's research. > >> > > > > True. :) imo, it's always valuable to have a page you can point to > > with all the current research - no matter how useless it might end up > > being in the end, so that new thinkers can pick it up and add to it > > easily. > > I've just set up > > http://microformats.org/wiki/tagcloud-brainstorming > http://microformats.org/wiki/tagcloud-examples > > Does anyone have some tips/tools for converting HTML to Wiki? All the > brainstorming, research etc I've done is in HTML. > > Thanks > > j > > John Allsopp > > style master :: css editor :: http://westciv.com/style_master > blog :: dog or higher :: http://blogs.westciv.com/dog_or_higher > WebPatterns :: http://webpatterns.org > Web Directions Conference :: Sydney September 28-29 :: http://wd06.com > > > _______________________________________________ > microformats-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > -- - Stephen Paul Weber, Amateur Writer <http://www.awriterz.org> MSN/GTalk/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ/AIM: 103332966 NSA: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BLOG: http://singpolyma-tech.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
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