On Nov 5, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
That's not true. hCard data within a vCard record is well related
to that
hCard and thus absolutely not random data.
Not random data, but not necessarily a URL of the contact within the
hCard, not the "homepage" as you've been calling it. There are other
links within hCards and it's not practical to demand publishers
remove these links. The very first example in the wild from the wiki
demonstrates this:
http://www.finds.org.uk/
Here's the markup:
<div id="footer2" class="vcard">
<address><span class="fn org">The British Museum</span>, <span
class="street-address">Great Russell Street</span>, <span
class="locality">London</span> <span class="postal-code">WC1B 3DG</
span> | <a href="http://www.finds.org.uk/legal/disclaimer.php";
title="Legal disclaimer">Disclaimer</a> | <a href="http://
www.finds.org.uk/legal/privacy.php" title="Our privacy
policy">Privacy Policy</a> | © 2006 <br>
E: <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" title="Contact the Scheme"
class="email">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> <span class="tel">T: +44 (0)20
7323 8611</span></address> </div>
They have a link to their privacy policy and legal disclaimer within
the vCard. Any suggested change to hCard needs to allow for this,
because this is what publishers do on the web today.
It may seem redundant, but it is the only way to disambiguate random
links with links associated with the vcard/vevent
That is a point already mentioned. And this may indeed be true.
Although still
i think _inside_ a vCard or vEvent record there sould not be random
links,
but only links related to that hCard or vEvent.
We're not telling publishers what they should be publishing. We're
just helping them publish it with more descriptive markup.
It may seem redundant, but it is the only way to disambiguate random
links with links associated with the vcard/vevent
So what now?
That depends: what practical problem are we trying to solve here?
Do we define that any link within a hCard/vEvent record is by
definition related to that record?
No. That doesn't accurately describe the intended meaning of
publishers using links with a block of contact information.
Or,
does a hCard/vEvent record contain random urls, of which only one
is related
to the record?
Yes.
Then you may consider to classify this one and only link with
class="url".
That's what hCard does.
But then the meaning of this url is not "any general url", since
it is not any url to any random data, but it is _the one specific_
url. This
is different from the w3c definitions.
Yes, it is different. The more specific meaning comes from the more
specific context. Why is this a problem?
Peace,
Scott
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