Before this thread dies out completely, I'd like to forward a discussion the orginal author and I had:
------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: PJ Doland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [The Frosty Mug Revolution] New Comment Posted to 'A Semantic Solution for Presenting NSFW Content' Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:58:45 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob- Thanks for the information on the list discussion. I just read through the whole list thread. There's some very good feedback in there, but I would like to encourage your group to resist the urge to make the spec too full-featured. If people have to categorize HOW something might be considered NSFW (nudity, language, violence, nudity & language, etc.) it's going to make them less likely to use the standard in practice. As I've said earlier, I think PICS and ICRA failed because of their complexity. I, personally, think this feature will mostly be used by community- driven sites where the attribute would be automatically added to a link by server-side code whenever a user reports a post or comment as NSFW with a single click. That is all the more reason to just keep it simple. Adoption of this as a general standard could be VERY helpful for wider adoption of microformats as a whole, but the simplicity of it is going to be key. -- PJ Doland President PJ Doland Web Design, Inc. 11591 Maple Ridge Rd. Reston, VA 20190 P: 703.621.0991 F: 208.248.3241 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjdoland.com On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: > Hi: Thanx for the reply! > > There's been some discussion on your proposal on the Microformats > mailing list. Consensus was > pretty much the same as yours: PICS is too complicated; if it was > any good it would have > achieved widespread adoption already. There's a proposal to use > your rel="nsfw" as part of > the hReview microformat. This is very doable, and takes advantage > of existing parsers. > > The Microformat mailing list archives with the NSFW thread is at > http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006- > December/007885.html > > --Bob. > > > > This is what PJ Doland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said > about "Re: [The Frosty Mug Revolution] New Comment Poste" on 30 Dec > 2006 at 21:18 > >> Bob- >> >> Thanks for your feedback. >> >> As I see it, there are several problem with PICS and ICRA: >> >> 1. The standards are too complicated for most bloggers to wrap-their >> heads around. Any Jake can type ten keystrokes and take advantage of >> my proposed standard. >> 2. They also don't reference offsite destination anchors. >> 3. They tend to label a whole page. > > > This is what PJ Doland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said > about "Re: [The Frosty Mug Revolution] New Comment Poste" on 30 Dec > 2006 at 20:00 > >> Bob- >> >> The problem with PICS and ICRA is that: >> >> 1. They tend to focus on rating the content of the entire page. WIth >> blogs and social network sites where content exists in smaller units >> of differing theme and authorship, this seems inadequate. >> >> 2. The specifications are robust enough that they are complicated on >> a level where people don't bother with them. >> >> Sticking a simple declaration on the element level is much easier and >> simpler for content authors. >>> >> >> >> On Dec 30, 2006, at 3:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> A new comment has been posted on your blog The Frosty Mug >>> Revolution, on entry #41577 (A Semantic Solution for Presenting >>> NSFW Content). >>> >>> View this comment: <http://pj.doland.org/archives/041577.php> >>> Edit this comment: <http://www.pjdoland.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt.cgi? >>> __mode=view&id=1605214&_type=comment&blog_id=12> >>> >>> IP Address: 206.248.137.186 >>> Name: Bob Jonkman >>> Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> URL: >>> Comments: >>> >>> I think you may be re-inventing the wheel: >>> >>> <a href="http://www.w3.org/PICS/";>http://www.w3.org/PICS/</a> >>> >>> >>> --Bob. ------- End of forwarded message ------- _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
