On 2/8/07, James Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Quoting from About Microformats: "Designed for humans first and machines second, microformats are a set of simple, open data formats built upon existing and widely adopted standards." This also implies they should be easy to implement. Co-locating your own box and rocking mod_rewrite can hardly be considered easy implementation of a "simple" data format.
--- i agree with all of this, and that is why microformats do not force you to use your own tagspace. There are plenty of sites that can easily be used as tagspaces[1]. You don't have to co-locate or rock mod_rewrite, but then you can't use that as an excuse when the alternative is to link to ANY tagspace. It is likely that most sites will WANT to create their own tagspace so we should certainly document problems and offer alternatives. But server setup is orthagonal to microformats.
Your taking the elitist way out. I believe it's a microformats problem to encourage adoption and to figure out a standard that will work for the most people. Which is better? A massive dissemination of usable tag metadata, or a smaller subset of tag metadata with pretty URLs?
--- sorry if i came across as elitist, but that is my opinion. rel-tag is about tags, not how to setup tag spaces. I think it is a much better approach is to NOT change the spec to correspond with broken implementations. To encourage adoption, i would suggest (and many have) add to the wiki alternatives and ways to work around the limitations of servers and software. One of the biggest complains is with IIS. (i had a look on the wiki and it is burried) But there is software that can be installed on Windows to allow for the creation of Tagspaces. "More information on actually implementing a tag space would be helpful. I wrote a tagging system on our intranet and we run IIS. So I had to install URLrewrite (ISAPI) to create the URI /tag/tagname. We horrible Microsoft people aren't as lucky to have Mod Rewrite." Many of these should be pulled out onto a wiki page, so next time when folks say "My server doesn't allow tagspaces" we can point them to the wiki page, with alternatives, fixes, suggestions, etc. -brian [1] - http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag-spaces -- brian suda http://suda.co.uk _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
