On Feb 11, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Ryan Cannon wrote:
On Feb 10, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Forcing the religion of "uids
should be urls" on the rest of the world is not why we are here.
Making it easy for authors to connect their web content and web
apps with the semantic web is. If someone else likes uids that
aren't urls, and the spec supports that, then why should we keep
them from establishing authoritative hCards?
...
How is via+via self more constraining? You can do everything you
can with uid+url, but you don't have to use URLs for your UIDs.
+1
UID+URL *is* more constraining. Like rel-tag, you're forcing a lot
of assumptions about the documents *surrounding* these URLs--links
have to point somewhere after all.
My UID, if you will, is http://ryancannon.com/. I've established it
across many different sites as the definitive link for "me". By
forcing UID+URL to be used to establish an hCard's source, you're
also forcing my most robust hCard must exist at that URL.
No, we're not. Once again, we're just talking about related-ness, not
authority.
Also, I don't see why authoritativeness has to also mean
completeness. Wouldn't authority be applied on a field-by-field basis?
However, when I redesign my home page, if I want to move my contact
information to ryancannon.com/contact my UID shouldn't change--it's
still just the domain. However, with URL+UID, I'm screwed. With
@rel=via, I can still have the option to point to my full hCard.
No, you're not screwed. All you have to do is put a minimal hcard on
your home page with UID+URL=ryancannon.com/contact. That's it.
Also, Ryan, you have yet to address the fact that URL+UID changes
the parsing rules of the hCard--not that I believe it is currently
ideal. Is it responsible for the community to change the rules of a
deployed specification willy-nilly? While the implementation in X2V
may be trivial, it may not be in other applications in the wild--
it's also not a good precedence to set for uFs in general.
For backwards-compatibility alone, @rel=via seems to me an optimal
solution.
Yes, this would mean a change in how UIDs are parsed, however the
only UID I can find in the wild are URLs. A change wouldn't break
anything.
-ryan
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Ryan King
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