[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Jeremy wrote: >>>> The simplest solution is to simply expand the pattern to allow the >>>> same usage of class and title on elements other than abbr (span is >>>> specifically mentioned but this would potentially apply to any >>>> element). ......... I'd be interested in hearing other arguments >>>> for or against this idea. >>> >>> I have another one for. This isn't from a screen reader >>> perspective, but an IE perspective. >>> >>> Because IE doesn't support the abbr element it is very difficult to >>> target anything written using the abbr design pattern with CSS. >> >> This is no longer true. IE7 supports the abbr element. > > Sorry, I meant to say IE6, not IE in general. > >>> If we could use, say, a span this would solve that problem. >> >> If you must have pixel-perfect rendering for your content/site in >> older browsers that don't support abbr, and you need abbr-specific >> styling, then yes, a workaround is to add a <span> element as a >> styling hook for those older browsers. However we MUST NOT >> compromise microformats for browsers that failed to implement *an >> entire HTML4 element*. > > Agreed. However, not being able to style an entire element in > a browser that still has the lion's share of the market is a > real pain in the behind. I don't need a pixel-perfect > rendering, but some control would be nice without CSS > calisthenics. Maybe we should just evangelize FF and/or IE7 more.
You could also use Dean Edwards' IE7 scripts [1] and deliver them via conditional comments to IE6 and under. They add support for ABBR to IE6. Then you will cover IE7 + all IE6 and under with JS support and can go on about your business. [1] http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/compatibility/ It isn't a perfect solution, for sure, but will likely get you 70-80% of the way there, which is pretty good (and perhaps the best we can hope for). Cheers, Aaron ---- Aaron Gustafson Easy! Designs, LLC http://www.easy-designs.net http://www.easy-reader.net _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
