Paul Wilkins wrote:
Brian Suda wrote:
I keep going back to how companies like Microsoft and Yahoo have
decided to use microformats, if they thought there were problems, they
would have been the first to complain.

Lets talk about what/if any changes could be made to make things more
clear. I'm certainly up for clarifying things, as an author, i'm not
trying to hide or do something sneaky.

What kind of copyright or licensing things are involved with microformats?

I would have thought that there were none, as microformats are just an advisory on how to markup text.

I compare it with, "Hey, here's an idea. Use the address tag so people know who to get in touch with to edit the page."

Does the way that geo tags are put together,
<span class="geo" title="lat;long">. . .</span>
require any form of copyright or license? I would hope not.


NB: I am not a lawyer. I was an intellectual property paralegal in DC for a time, and this is based on my experience with that. This is not legal advice, yadda yadda ;)

One might not think that these things would be subject to copyright (or, more dangerously, as a potential submarine patent threat), but specific strings of tags and such may be considered as unique as specific strings of words can be in verse and prose and advertising. I don't know the current caselaw in this area, but I would be surprised if there is much precedent to assuage fears that copyright could be claimed on pieces of microformats.

And in the US, absence of a copyright notice assumes some copyright protections. You have to explicitly release your rights if you wish to do so.

More dangerous is the patent side, which is much more friendly to algorithms, processes, and the like. These could ostensibly be considered such things, and get past a patent examiner and be granted a patent.

If a patent were granted, then the holders could approach users of the now-patented "process" and hold them accountable for royalties and licensing fees. All of a sudden, anyone from Microsoft to your small business can be threatened with, at minimum, a long legal battle.

This fear can be soothed fairly simply by releasing all work on the wiki into the public domain, or something of the sort. All wiki pages could be under the LGPL, the GDL, or some other open licenses if not in the public domain. There are several options here.

The challenge now is that every editor of the wiki would, I believe, need to either approve of the change in license, or their work would need to be stripped out of the wiki. This kind of process has happened several times in open source software projects. The microformats wiki may be sufficiently young as to make this somewhat possible, but it would certainly involve significant effort.

It's one of those things that really needs to be handled right at the beginning.

Again, this is all just based on my personal experience and research, and is not legal advice, but may be useful as a way of understanding why some may be concerned.

Best,
Jackson

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