Hello Maciej,

On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On May 27, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

>
> TYPES OF THUMBNAILS
>
> Really there are different sources a thumbnail can come from.
>
> A thumbnail can come from a video.  But it could also come from a
> (static) image.
>
> So... to distinguish between these different types of thumbnails, I've
> added a class-video to the <q> element.  (I suppose if you have a
> thumbnail from a static image you could add class-image... but
> anyways....)
>
> So, our example from before becomes...
>
>    <q class="video" cite="http://example.com/video";><img
> src="http://example.com/thumbnail.jpg"; /></q>
>
> Or if you want that pretty-printed...
>
>    <q class="video" cite="http://example.com/thevideo";>
>        <img src="http://example.com/thumbnail.jpg"; />
>    </q>
>
>
>
> RFC
>
> Comments?  Critisizms?  Opinions?

I don't think this is a very natural use of the <q> element. A
thumbnail isn't really like a quote of a prose fragment. Consider
that you would never put a thumbnail in quotation marks.

True... but you don't have to have the <q> elements put quotes around
the thumbnail.

Please refer to the following to see how to get rid of it...

http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-May/009703.html

This is similar to the problem we have with using <abbr> for dates.

Some browsers put a border under the <abbr> element.

We get rid of the bottom border some browser put under the <abbr>
element (when we use it for dates) with a little extra inline style.

We can do something similar here for the <q> element used for video thumbnails.

Also, <q cite=""> does not generally result in a clickable hyperlink,

It's not suppose to be clickable (in general).

In this bit of sHTML, I'm only tackling the problem of video thumbnailing.

It is true that I often do make it clickable by having code like the
following...

   <a href="http://example.com/thevideo";>
      <q class="video" cite="http://example.com/thevideo";>
          <img src="http://example.com/thumbnail.jpg"; alt="..." />
      </q>
   </a>

But this is NOT always the case.  Sometimes I don't want the thumbnail
to be clickable.

and <q>
adds rendered quotes in some browsers but not others. If you want the
full video to be clickable, what you might want is:

<a rev="thumbnail" href="http://example.com/video";>
   <img src="http://example.com/thumbnail.jpg";>
</a>

I'm not sure if the "rev" attribute is being used correctly in your markup.


Or, since rev is confusing and semi-deprecated, you could use
rel="full-video" or something like that; there's no very good
opposite to "thumbnail" unfortunately.

Regards,
Maciej



See ya

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   Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.

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