Ben Ward wrote:
Hi Robert,
Thanks for your feedback on the value-title work. It's moving along
quite nicely.
On 6 Feb 2009, at 03:04, Robert O'Rourke wrote:
Anyway there was a bit of discussion on strackoverflow and a clever
chap called Cristoph suggested using the VAR tag. I'm not entirely
clear whether it's semantically valid to use to store a datetime in
the title attribute but the spec states it's 'an instance of a
variable'. Is that geared towards marking up code rather than an
arbritrary variable?
The thread on stackoverflow is here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/457366/disabling-browser-tooltips-on-links-and-abbrs
Cristoph's suggestion is at the bottom.
Your guess is correct: <var> is for marking up code, not embedding
data; here's a lot of computer science bias in HTML4.
One of the key design goals I have with the new pattern is enabling
choice. Whilst the semantic validity of ABBR use is oft debated, and
the accessibility issues are proven, there's always been a problem and
discomfort from forcing use of a particular element onto authors. The
new pattern is, as mentioned on the test page, mark-up agnostic (you
can use span, or b, or input, or var, or whatever you like).
As such, you can publish something like Cristoph's pattern if you want
to.
You would do this, just adding the existing value-excerption pattern
‘value’ class to the <var>.
<p>
The party is at
<dfn class="dtstart">10 o'clock on the 10th
<var class="value">20051010T10:10:10-010</var></dfn>.
</p>
Personally, I don't agree with the uses of those elements here.
I should have a followup on the value-excerption work next week, along
with a draft spec.
Ben
Thanks for taking the time to respond Ben, I know you must be very busy.
I agree <var> didn't feel quite right but I thought I'd post it. The
mark-up agnostic approach is a great idea though. Looking forward to
reading the spec, thanks again Ben.
Rob
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