Hi Glenn,

comments inline.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi André
>
> Thanks for the nice comments about the identity work. Can you email me a 
> quick summary of the errors off the list and I will have look.
>

You deserve it. And I will ask them for details and fwd them to you.

> Like microformats one of the aims of identity consolidation should be to 
> surface the data so that it is not hidden from the user.  This is especially 
> important when rel=me linking goes wrong, users want to explore the issue 
> themselves. I had this conversation Brad Fitzpatrick the creator of the 
> Google Social Graph API earlier this year. We both agreed we need to build 
> some sort of visualisation tool to explore social graphs.
>
> I think I have achieved this for profiles with Ident Engines. You can see 
> what profile information is store about you and where, but I have yet to look 
> at visualisation of the rel=me linkages. More importantly found a way to 
> allow users to explore issues with their own graph.
>
> The tool I use the most at the moment is:
>
> http://identengine.com/debug/debug-identites.htm
>
> It's only a linear list, but sometimes help me find rogue relationships
>

Right! At least it allows people to take care of the "weeds" in their
social graph. Funny. One of the comments I heard when someone was
trying it out was: "hey! I've told them [whoever they might be] to
remove that site/link!!" hahaha Apparently he didn't know someone was
still linking an extinct website as his somewhere. :)

As for visualization of the social graph, I've been using
http://workshop.andr3.net/xfnexplorer/ but it's very very slow,
limited to 200 nodes and not "distributable". The parsing is done via
serverside, using Dmitry's Optimus. I see myself rewriting this to
link the Ident engine and JIT toolkit (see footer) to achieve the same
results but much faster. :)

Cheers,
André Luís

> Glenn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of André Luís
> Sent: 07 October 2009 16:19
> To: Microformats Discuss
> Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Ident Engine
>
> Glenn,
>
> thank you (once again) for your effort.
>
> This is *huge*. I believe it *does* lower the barrier of using
> identity discovery. Specially given the level of interest around js.
> And thank you for including a note on progressive enhancement on your
> ALA article. ;)
>
> Meanwhile, I've pimped the lib around the office and some of them are
> sending me feeback on some of the tests they ran. Would you be
> interested in checking some of the faulty results? One of them got a
> sgn:// "template" URLs from myspace in one of your demos.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> André Luís
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glenn Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have built a little JavaScript library that combines Social Graph data
>> and parsing of open data sources such as microformats.
>>
>> http://identengine.com/
>> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/discovering-magic/
>>
>> Earlier this year Chris Messina made the passing comment that the
>> techniques I demoed involved too much hoop jumping to be of practical
>> use. I built this library to see if I could lower the barrier of entry.
>> A List Apart published an article I have written on the libraries
>> architecture.
>>
>> The library makes extensive use of both the Google's Social Graph API
>> and Yahoo's YQL. It all under a MIT license
>>
>> Try out the demo's
>>
>> Glenn Jones
>>
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