On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 09:55 -0400, Manu Sporny wrote: > Martin McEvoy wrote: > > Manu first I would like to say that I understand what you are trying to > > do with the "." my example would be class="collection" the parent or > > group, class="collection.Track_1" is my child or item, > > class="collection.Track_2" is another child or item, It simpler and > > "works" but I don't think it will be widely accepted, It goes against > > the grain for me because it is machine data, hidden, not people data > > visible and easy to style. > > It would be very simple to use a 'collection-item' paradigm - but that > doesn't address the problem of sparse collections of audio recordings. > If you are going to weigh in with proposed solutions, please familiarize > yourself with the grouping-examples page first (I know you've done this, > Martin. The statement is intended to some of the others on the list that > might want to weigh in on the discussion, but might not know about the > prior analysis work): > > http://microformats.org/wiki/grouping-examples > > * 100% of examples contained some form of grouping > * 67%: ordered > * 65%: unordered > * 62%: non-sparse > * 54%: sparse > > As the analysis shows - we need a solution that can do both sparse and > non-sparse grouping. All of the non-name-space-based solutions proposed > thus far do not support sparse grouping.
Manu please help me out here because I am having difficulty understanding your logic? As you know I do not disagree with your proposal for collections but... To me the ".", period, or hidden class, in xml/xhtml is a known empty element i.e they create a space along with "a-b" "a_b" and "a~b" If I wanted to connect two items I would use "a|b" "a/b" "a:b" or "a,b" you can also use "a?b" "a&b" as connectors so why have you chose "." a period to describe your relationships in a collection? > > I realize there is an aversion to name spacing. It would be nice if we > could avoid the issue entirely. The data to back-up the need for > something equivalent to name spacing is there. I have not seen any data > to back up the counter-point to not using local name spacing on a web > page. If somebody knows where this resides, please point us to it. > > A proposed solution must be able to handle all 4 types of grouping. > > -- manu > _______________________________________________ > microformats-new mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
_______________________________________________ microformats-new mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
