On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:13 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin > McEvoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes (corrected per his follow-up) > > >> > 4:46, in plain English, is not an abbreviation of "P268T". > >> > >> No you are correct it isn't It needs changing. > > > >would this work: > > > ><abbr class="duration" title="267600">4:46</abbr> > > > >title is expressed in milliseconds 4:46 is a human readable > >abbreviation > > It would "work", in that could be parsed; but "4:46" is *not* an > abbreviation of "267600". Consider, also that that might be in a table > whose column-title is "duration in minutes and seconds". > > If the evidence is that people are publishing times as "4:46", why not > simply allow them to do so as part of this microformat: > > <span class="duration">4:46</span> > > and for longer works: > > <span class="duration">1:16:00</span> > > Where the pattern is: > > nn (seconds) > > nn:nn (minutes and seconds) > > nn:nn:nn (hours, minutes and seconds) > > Additionally, decimal values in seconds could be allowed: > > nn:nn:nn.nn > > > That said, 4'46", 4m46s and 4mins 46secs, and more, have to be catered > for. This: > > <abbr class="duration" title="4:46">4m 46s</abbr> > > is less of an abuse of abbr, but still not right. > > > I think we should resolve the abbr-accessibility "elephant in the room", > once and for all, before introducing any new mis-uses of abbr. After > all, it was identified over a year ago...
You have made a fair argument I have no problems with this I would recommend that in hAudio any use or the abbr-pattern should be delayed until all accessibility issues are resolved <span class="duration">4:46</span> +1 Martin McEvoy > _______________________________________________ microformats-new mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
