On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 12:30 -0400, Manu Sporny wrote: > Martin McEvoy wrote: > > Could It be done Like this? > > > > <div class="haudio"> > > <div class="item"> > > <span class="type" title="Release"> > > <span class="fn">Best Before 1984</span> > > </span> > > By: <span class="contributor">Crass</span> > > </div> > > <div class="item"> > > <span class="fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</span> > > <span class="duration">4:46</span> > > </div> > > <div class="item"> > > <span class="fn">Big A, Little A</span> > > <span class="duration">6:13</span> > > </div> > > </div> > > > > type titles can be Album, Release, Podcast, Chart, Toplist, even Episode > > and Track but would this be too restrictive? I think It may be a more > > flexible approach than having class names for all these properties. > > While I am a fan of doing it this way, it goes against one of the > primary Microformat principles: "No hidden data!" > > This is one of the main things that separate the Microformats approach > from the RDFa approach. hAudio in RDFa[1] would mark up the previous > example like so: > > <div about="#best-before-1984" instanceof="hmedia:Album"> > <span property="dc:title">Best Before 1984</span> > By: <span property="dc:contributor">Crass</span> > </div> > > ... > > <span about="#best-before-1984" rel="hmedia:contains" > resource="#nagasaki-nightmare"> > <div about="#nagasaki-nightmare" instanceof="hmedia:Recording"> > <span property="dc:title">Nagasaki Nightmare</span> > <span property="hmedia:duration" content="PT4M46S">4:46</span> > </div> > </span> > ... > > <span about="#best-before-1984" rel="hmedia:contains" > resource="#big-a-little-a"> > <div about="#big-a-little-a" instanceof="hmedia:Recording"> > <span property="dc:title">Big A, Little A</span> > <span property="dc:duration" content="PT6M13S">6:13</span> > </div> > </span> > > Note that with the RDFa approach: > > - The type is explicitly stated using @instanceof. > - There is slightly more hidden data with the RDFa approach. > - RDFa is more verbose. > - There is no need for nesting in RDFa to express containment. > - Items can be related to one another without nesting in RDFa. > > So, while it is a good argument, Martin... it is an argument for RDFa, > not an argument for the Microformats community. > > The closest we can get to specifying type in the Microformats community > is by either: > > a) explicitly stating it, which we can't do with hAudio, or > b) implicitly stating it, which is why we have ALBUM
I thought that the @title area is for giving hints to people? visible data? and intended to be implicitly stated, not directly expressed. Explicitly was how I stated type In an earlier suggestion <span class="type">Album</span>: which cant be done in hAudio I'm told so...? Thanks Martin > > -- manu > > [1] http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/en/HAudio_RDFa > _______________________________________________ > microformats-new mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new _______________________________________________ microformats-new mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
